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Surely no one can disagree at least that Rafa has been shithouse this season and last, right? He seems to get into petty squabbles with owners far too easily, and players don't get on with him.

That's pretty much the same as Avram Grant achieved in a YEAR with Chelsea, thus by your reckoning he did as well/better than Rafa in that time.

Rafa WAS a good manager. He has done F*** ALL of note since 2005, and has now taken two clubs backwards. Sorted.

Yes please. 100% agreed.

Why would he go to Liverpool? He could walk into the job at most Champions League level clubs, why would he step down?

Seriously can you hear yourself? Why ISN'T O'Neill banging down the door then?

Martin O'Neill is who Liverpool fans should be after, with the money they spend he would be excellent.

Hiddink - unrealistic Rijkaard - maybe Rafa - wouldn't go back Jol - good shout actually Dalglish - only concern is he hasn't done anything of note for 15 years, would he be out of date with how the Prem works now?

Aw I love it! Mourinho is at the gates of Anfield, BEGGING to be let in as we speak.

7th LAST YEAR, 9th this year. So yes, still (upper) midtable. OK seriously though who do you think they can attract?

Who are you hoping for as manager after Hodgson, REALISTICALLY? Remembering you are a midtable club. Hughton? Allardyce?

And why would he suddenly want to leave when he was onto such a good thing at Liverpool?....Hmm....

The above linked shows that Rafa spent £18m MORE every season than he made in sales. Can everyone please finally accept that he spent a SHITLOAD of money?

How about this one Fawksey? When he hit on the EXCELLENT midfield combination of Masch, Alonso and Gerrard in midfield why didn't he do everything he could to keep that together?

You're proving our point mate.

Inter were dominating Serie A til he turned up. He has somehow managed to turn that around. I'm sorry but you can't say that's the mark of a good manager. He must've been a good manager once, but it's a few years ago now.

He spent a fair bit more than Fergie over the last 4 years, yet delivered less. It's just logic that that is BAD, no?

What part of 3rd highest net spend in the entire prem over the last 5 years is passing you by? (EDIT: Whoever found that link can they post it in this thread please?) Liverpool fans remind me of Leeds and Newcastle fans, which bodes well for the future. I can see them going down one day...

Pretty amusing that the only people supporting Rafa on here are Liverpool supporters. STOP F***ING SAYING HE DIDNT HAVE MUCH TO SPEND. WE HAVE GONE OVER THIS SO MUCH. HE SPENT UTTER SHITLOADS. Last time we had this discussion someone posted the actual net spending of all Prem teams over the...

Good point a few posts above, it is completely forgotten amongst all the massively stupid mistakes Rafa made that he completely f*cked over a REALLY good youth academy. Owen Fowler McManaman Gerrard Carragher Not til Hodgson came in did we see ANY youth players coming through playing well.