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I noticed that Turkey approached Russia only yesterday about setting up a UN alternative for precisely this reason. I'm not sure why they went to Russia with it - the Russians are one of the nations with a veto! You'd think anyone outside those 5 nations would be a bit more sympathetic.

Just to reiterate @Bozza's response, this is just plain weird. Some of us are quite capable of seeing Hamas as an awful, murderous regime who lost the morale high ground when they decided to massacre and kidnap civilians, whilst acknowledging that the Israeli government have been no better...

It will never happen, but wouldn't it be lovely if the Arab world and the US could just take a step back, refuse all arms support - and just let those two absolutely awful governments sort it out themselves?

I'm getting the impression this is largely being peddled by right wing Israeli sympathisers on Twitter. But honestly, if this is a Hamas missile falling short, what are the odds it would hit a hospital slap bang in the middle killing thousands of its own people?

This is my guess.

At least there's no constant bloodshed with that one. Like the middle east, it feels to me as if western powers have treated the Turks harshly there. The fact that northern Cyprus isn't recognised seems to ignore the fact that the Turks only went in to defend their people, and the fact that...

Sorry, you don't protect your citizens by continuing to steal foreign owned land over the course of decades, and breaking international law in the process. You'd need a brain the size of a peanut to fail to see how antagonistic that would be.

I said "negotiated" peace deal. These peace deals have not been negotiated, they have been crumbs from the Israeli table, brokered by Western powers. When the violence ended in Ireland, it wasn't because they accepted a Protestant solution brokered only by a British government.

Nothing on offer, ever. When have Palestinians ever had the chance to vote on a properly negotiated peace settlement?

Oh come on, do better. There isn't a negotiated peace deal on the table is there FFS? Instead Netanyahu's unchecked right wing loons just continue to steal occupied land in the west bank and nobody in the wider world seems to care.

But most Irish believe the same about Northern Ireland. That doesn't mean they didn't want the end to kids being blown up in shops and so voted for a solution that meant they could all go about their lives.

Not really. You're basically crying because people are calling out your drivel, including one non-practicing Jew who appears to dare to disagree with you by acknowledging that Israel are part responsible for this conflict and indeed this incident. You're embarrassing.

Is @Live by the sea another account for @Steve Foster? Annoyingly right wing and full of "Israel can do no wrong" bollocks. I can't be arsed to engage with the tiresome cretin. Edit: and if you don't like being referred to as such, stop CRYING every time someone pulls you up and disagrees...

If you're right then I agree with your conclusion - either a power sharing agreement or it should be administered by the UN. Having Israel control the city is not sustainable for long term peace.

As @Nobby Cybergoat asks, how exactly does that follow? There is no logic in your post whatsoever. It's just yet more horseshit from you really isn't it?

Indeed, but Hamas wouldn't have a foothold if there was a land agreement in place that was acceptable to their side. It's like the IRA. Once there was a neutral police service, an agreement of freedom of movement across Ireland, a power sharing agreement and so on - everybody felt that was...

This is kind of what has happened to Serbia in Kosovo. Kosovo is considered the cradle of that nation, but constant Albanian migration into the area has kind of forced them out, and yet the Serbs get terrible press for their determination to keep the area under their control.

People will look at states like Saudi and Iran when it comes to this conflict, but it's really very simple: if Israel pull out of the occupied west bank territory and cede East Jerusalem to a new Palestinian state, this conflict would be over within 5 minutes. Most sane people can see a) Hamas...