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Sigh.... because we have enough British born idiots/criminals that we are stuck with so why would we want more foreign born ones to add to them ?. It's really not difficult is it. Treat them same legally but if you are a guest in our country and cannot behave then you shouldn't still be here. I...

That doesn't make sense. If a British citizen commits a crime and a foreign national commits the same crime then yes the same legal punishment but where are you setting the bar with regards deportation ? are you happy with the current 1 year custodial sentence as being the bar?

Dangerous ground there be very careful what you try and suggest. I don't like criminals full stop.

You're just reaching now, there is a difference as I said above. Could you answer the question I asked of you ?.

There is of course context to a lot of cases that a judge should rightly consider but yes to both. Mike Amesbury was done for common assault laying into someone whilst he was on the floor and no prison sentence. Domestic violence 100% yes, if you're pre-disposed to beating up your wife/husband...

Yes I would count speeding as a minor offence. If you're really asking if there's a difference between organised shoplifting gangs and a mother with no money then I'd say you are being deliberately difficult. Let me ask you back, if a foreign migrant, illegal or otherwise, is found to be a...

I can ask what I like can't I ?. Do I think anyone committing any crime should not be allowed to apply for asylum ?, well yes. Why would we want to give asylum to someone who is unable to stay within the boundaries of our laws. Perhaps minor crimes maybe, but in general absolutely.

Yes please, if found guilty of a violent or sexual offence. Do you disagree then ?.

No. Numbers are subjective aren't they ? 1 would be too many if we are talking about sexual/violent offenders not being deported. In which case I'll give you then is Abdul Ezedi. Here's your source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clapham_alkali_attack How many cases would you say is too many ...

I think you'll find I'm just quoting one of good old Harrys favourite expressions when he decides someone is exasperating him.

That's really not the point he's trying to make as you well know. Simply put, we have enough of our own criminals/dickheads/perverts without keeping foreign nationals here if they are convicted of a crime. They should be deported once sentence served but it seems far too often the system is...

Fantasy land. Equally as unlikely but theoretically possible that the ECHR signatories all get far right governments and decide that the death penalty is no longer a red line. There's a mechanism to do virtually everything however unlikely that would be.

Yay another mention of your wonderful ignore list. Pull your pants up and go and make me a cup of tea I think is the expression isn't it ?.

Fake story and has been deleted, outrage over. If it was real though why are they Bastards ? Because they earn good money and spend it in a way you don't like ? If they are giving a view on how a policy change has impacted them, no matter what they earn they have a right to say how it has...

Uncomfortable thread. Every chance to stay up with the right investment and playing style.

No emoji necessary ?

Thank you. Honest answers, much appreciated. I don't agree personally especially with the 1 year term but that doesn't mean either views aren't valid. I hadn't really considered leaving the ECHR to be honest but if there were things that we as a country wanted to do but couldn't due to ECHR...

You do love asking questions, not so good at answering them. Where do YOU draw the line ?, do you think people should be able to endlessly play the system launching appeal after appeal until they find a judge who will allow it? You never did answer my old question, what crimes do YOU think...

Perhaps because in the example I was using the offender was a nonce and foreign ?. Added or otherwise as I really don't give a toss what colour/nationality they are but we can't really deport British nonces can we. Is there anything else you'd like to get offended by ?.

Sigh.... you aren't really getting this are you, please put me back on ignore. Plead guilty on 16th Jan SENTENCED on 24th Feb Appealed 27th Feb