Washie
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This will slow everything in Russia down, ruining the economy even faster.
[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)
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- Aug 24, 2020
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Ukrainian UAVs now also active in Borisoglebsk, which hosts Borisoglebsk air base, home to Russia fighter jets. (Noel Reports on Twitter).
Borisoglebsk is SE of Moscow and east of Voronezh.
Borisoglebsk is SE of Moscow and east of Voronezh.
- Nov 11, 2009
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What is just as stunning as the audaciousness of the attack, is the operational security.
18 months in the planning, many involved deep inside Russia and it looks like the Russians had no intel and its caught them totally by surprise.
18 months in the planning, many involved deep inside Russia and it looks like the Russians had no intel and its caught them totally by surprise.
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
I don't understand.
In Top Gun: Maverick, all the russian MIGS were parked under concrete domes.
What gives ?
In Top Gun: Maverick, all the russian MIGS were parked under concrete domes.
What gives ?
- Aug 24, 2020
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All things considered, I prefer Ukraine's peace plan to Trump's version.
No longer reliant on the kindness of strangers in the White House, yesterday Ukraine made the world a safer place.
Yes, there will be a response from Russia after it has picked itself up off the floor. But it will come across as bitter, kneejerk and face-saving.
It will not reverse Ukraine's stunning success, which will go down in history and become a legend like those of ancient Greece.
No longer reliant on the kindness of strangers in the White House, yesterday Ukraine made the world a safer place.
Yes, there will be a response from Russia after it has picked itself up off the floor. But it will come across as bitter, kneejerk and face-saving.
It will not reverse Ukraine's stunning success, which will go down in history and become a legend like those of ancient Greece.
It's like a modern day metaphor for the myth of the Trojan Horse with the trucks transporting the wooden sheds in which the drones were hidden and secretly carried into Russia symbolising the giant wooden horse which carried the Greek soldiers hiding within through the gates of Troy.
- Aug 24, 2020
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You are so right. That had occurred to me, or rather I probably read it on some Youtube post, but I decided not to post it again on here, and instead just allude to it.
What I wasn't aware of, was that Ukraine paid Russian civilian haulage companies to transport the containers to their own airbases ! The drones were stored in hidden compartments at the top of each container. It is beyond extraordinary, and exceeds the Trojan horse, because it really happened, and is irrefutable because it was recorded on numerous devices and published worldwide.
- Aug 24, 2020
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Deportivo Seagull
I should coco
This tactic works on a number of levels.
1. It enables Ukraine to take out critical kit deep within Russia that conventional warfare wouldn’t allow. normally it’s all about boots on the ground but not as the case.
2. Done without putting Ukrainian forces at risk
3. Psychologically it’s nuclear as it shows nothing is safe anywhere inside Russia. It could have easily been the Kremlin.
4. The fear for Russia is how many more drones are stored in Russia waiting to be launched.
Number 4. Is the interesting one as Ukraine clearly like the long game and they are a couple of years ahead. itks rather ironic given the comments regards Putin being the master of the long game.
1. It enables Ukraine to take out critical kit deep within Russia that conventional warfare wouldn’t allow. normally it’s all about boots on the ground but not as the case.
2. Done without putting Ukrainian forces at risk
3. Psychologically it’s nuclear as it shows nothing is safe anywhere inside Russia. It could have easily been the Kremlin.
4. The fear for Russia is how many more drones are stored in Russia waiting to be launched.
Number 4. Is the interesting one as Ukraine clearly like the long game and they are a couple of years ahead. itks rather ironic given the comments regards Putin being the master of the long game.
Probably didn't need a Russian truck for this one
'prefab' houses now stands for pre-flying-air-bombs
What gets me is the remote, pre programmed tech/AI ... brilliant
- Aug 24, 2020
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I read somewhere that Lavrov asked to meet Rubio prior to the full Istanbul talks.
The state department announced that Lavrov requested the meeting.
Make of it what you will. But I don't think any Russian has asked for a meeting before.
The state department announced that Lavrov requested the meeting.
Make of it what you will. But I don't think any Russian has asked for a meeting before.
- Nov 11, 2009
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If that's true?
Totally automated AI would be a paradigm shift in war capability. Some commentators are sceptical if it really was?
Saying it was makes sense as that would make all such attacks fully automated and without need of human input or distant electronic controls.
Who knows? But to have the Russians believe it's true and that every internal infrastructure is now at risk (and we don't need men on ground to facilitate it) will send shivers down some Kremlin spines
Trying to manipulate
Agreed, the Russians need to believe it's so. Either way it'll scare the Kremlin.
But I guess it could have been Ukrainian drone operators within Russia (for the distant attacks?), or perhaps that wasn't even necessary, maybe operated from Ukraine. And opening the prefab roof remotely to let the drones out...? blimey.What an operation, whichever way it was done
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- Aug 24, 2020
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Indeed. Trying to set the agenda, move the goalposts, play the victim, dangle a carrot, all the usual stuff.
But they still consider that it is the US they are negotiating with, and not the country they invaded. They still regard the issue as an internal Russian issue when the rest of the world doesn't.
beorhthelm
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- Jul 21, 2003
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it's not that hard a task: go to coordinates xy, seek shape Tu-95 or Tu-22, collide.
some commentry highlighted Ukraine have some of these in aviation museums, so could get right up close with training/testing.
v2, which navigates streets of Moscow and targets specific moving targets, that will be a paradigm shift. and shit scary for the rest of the world too.
Washie
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This is why Ukraine released it. That search can take 30 mins. That truck is now delayed by 30 mins, the one behind? An hour. getting worse and worse, until the delays become too costly, or stores run out of items, leaving the people hungry and without, until they get restless and start to turn on the government.
Muzzman
Pocket Rocket
I hope so. Looking forward to the news when Putin gets sniped from a drone hiding inside his toilet.