[News] Nigel Farage and Reform

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Zebedee

Anyone seen Florence?
Jul 8, 2003
8,093
Hangleton
I have just looked through Reform's "contract with you" and can find no mention of this policy!

Mind you, having read this document, I do now need to go and wash my eyes, as they appear to be full of shit... 🤣
So I take it you won't be voting for them? I'm sure that Nigel will be heart-broken to hear that. šŸ˜€
 




dsr-burnley

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Aug 15, 2014
3,010
So - just how many people do you know have said this to you?

For example, people with no intention of taking sick days went they aren't ill are not necessarily in favour of sick pay from day 1.

Are these folk you've been chatting to aware that this will also apply to them? That is - when they are sick, they won't get sick pay from day 1. Won't this just mean they'll come in because otherwise they'll lose pay - and thereby spread whatever it is they have around. Especially as they won't be able to WFH instead - because Farage will also be stopping that. Has the covid experience taught nothing?

And I think your mates may be in the minority anyway - even amongst Reform voters.

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That seems a fairly antipathetic post considering it's agreeing with what I said. 36% of Reform voters oppose the employment rights proposals - that's proof that some people (which will include workers) don't like the policy.

I didn't claim it was a majority, just that it was a factor.
 




Bodian

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May 3, 2012
16,901
Cumbria
That seems a fairly antipathetic post considering it's agreeing with what I said. 36% of Reform voters oppose the employment rights proposals - that's proof that some people (which will include workers) don't like the policy.

I didn't claim it was a majority, just that it was a factor.
But they're already voting Reform. It's unlikely attract Labour voters to vote Reform.

And nowhere does it say that this 36% are actually workers either. Your point was about workers - for all we know, this 36% might be retired or unemployed.

Neither does it link the lack of support of this right to be because people are taking sick leave when they aren't sick. You haven't provided any evidence of that yet.

As an aside, I see that some Reform members are actually in favour of abusing sick leave anyway - they consider it fine to take sick leave to do other work. So, yet again, another total piece of hypocrisy. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ked-leicestershire-police-spain-b2750701.html
 


Deportivo Seagull

I should coco
Jul 22, 2003
6,023
Mid Sussex
Oh so you’re saying he may not have said it? I’m confused Thunderbird suggested he did that was all, and i politely enquired as to where he said it.

I’m assuming then when she said and I quote ā€œFarage has said women cannot take bereavement leave after a miscarriage or still birthā€ He may in fact have not actually said it?

As i said he’s a slippery **** but it doesn’t help if posters post stuff that isn’t true as i’m more than certain in the other direction the attack dogs would be all over certain posters for fake news.
i Was going to call you out on a great bit of deflection but I’ll give you the benefit of doubt. If he supported bereavement then he would have voted for so he clearly disagrees with it.
I can’t find anything but interestingly he wants to reduce the abortion limit from 24 weeks as it’s apparently outdated. He’s basically running with trumps play book. How long before he becomes the self appointed voice of the Christian right …
 








Zebedee

Anyone seen Florence?
Jul 8, 2003
8,093
Hangleton
No, I'm clearly not his target audience. He's not keen on free-thinkers!
Nope. But he is keen on insightful, patriotic, people who are looking for change. I jest but write him off at your peril šŸ™‚. Like most, if not all, politicians he will do and say anything to get in power.
 
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Peacehaven Wild Kids

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Jan 16, 2022
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Nope. But he is keen on insightful, patriotic, people who are looking for change. Write him off at your peril šŸ™‚.

Did you keep a straight face while typing that? 🤣🤣

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darkwolf666

Well-known member
Nov 8, 2015
8,311
Sittingbourne, Kent
Nope. But he is keen on insightful, patriotic, people who are looking for change. I jest but write him off at your peril šŸ™‚.
He doesn't want to be in charge, well not whist representing Reform, he is far happier shouting from the outside, making uncosted financial promises.

He wants to be given control of the Conservative party - to give him the REAL power he craves!
 


Deportivo Seagull

I should coco
Jul 22, 2003
6,023
Mid Sussex
What I said was that it's wrong to assume that all workers agree with Labour's additional workers' rights pack package, and gave reasons why not.

That can't be taken to mean that no workers should have additional rights if you had read the thread. I think there is a tendency sometimes to see a post about Farage that isn't 1000% abusive and to assume it needs a strong reply. Farage isn't 100% bad any more than Starmer or Badenoch or Corbyn or Johnson were.
You’d have to be terminally stupid to not support additional labour rights.
Secondly, whilst I’m not a fan of Starmer ( a politician AND a lawyer😱) chucking him with the others is just ridiculous. The others are … mad rightwing nut job , IRA sympathiser, grifting serial fuckwit and Farage is a grifter, Putin loveboy who I’m sure is looking over his shoulder at the Nathan Gill case.
 




Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
He doesn't want to be in charge, well not whist representing Reform, he is far happier shouting from the outside, making uncosted financial promises.

He wants to be given control of the Conservative party - to give him the REAL power he craves!
He is raking it in with his 10 jobs. He doesn’t want to be Prime Minister on those wages.
Grifting pays better.
 


n1 gull

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Jul 25, 2003
4,749
Hurstpierpoint
i Was going to call you out on a great bit of deflection but I’ll give you the benefit of doubt. If he supported bereavement then he would have voted for so he clearly disagrees with it.
I can’t find anything but interestingly he wants to reduce the abortion limit from 24 weeks as it’s apparently outdated. He’s basically running with trumps play book. How long before he becomes the self appointed voice of the Christian right …
He actually said abortion would be a free vote, but he thinks it should be less than 24 weeks

I agree with him
 






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Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
60,654
Faversham
He doesn't want to be in charge, well not whist representing Reform, he is far happier shouting from the outside, making uncosted financial promises.

He wants to be given control of the Conservative party - to give him the REAL power he craves!
Mmmmm.....he's a lazy chancer.
I think he is more than happy running a small company where millions (?) give him money just to be 'members'.
It's a grift that keeps on receiving.
'Real Power', if it ever came to that, would be operated Trump-style,
shits, giggles and to hell with the consequences.
Hopefully it will never happen.
But I doubt he minds.
It is the playing (and raking it in) that matters more than the winning.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Money is clearly important to the likes of Farage, as it was with Johnson before him, but the kudos of power is all embracing to their like, the money will then follow…
Johnson had everyone else paying for him, like his wedding.
Farage has earned over £1M since last July.
 


darkwolf666

Well-known member
Nov 8, 2015
8,311
Sittingbourne, Kent
Mmmmm.....he's a lazy chancer.
I think he is more than happy running a small company where millions (?) give him money just to be 'members'.
It's a grift that keeps on receiving.
'Real Power', if it ever came to that, would be operated Trump-style,
shits, giggles and to hell with the consequences.
Hopefully it will never happen.
But I doubt he minds.
It is the playing (and raking it in) that matters more than the winning.
Farage would fall somewhere between Johnson and Trump. You can have the ā€œpowerā€ without doing much, of any consequence, as Boris ably demonstrated. Johnson’s undoing was Covid, when he suddenly found he had to make grown up decisions - and failed.

Farage would bring the doing f* all as PM to a whole new level…
 








darkwolf666

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Nov 8, 2015
8,311
Sittingbourne, Kent


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