- Jun 27, 2012
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I’d put Welbeck, Ayari, Georginio, Van Hecke in the continuing to improve column.
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[Albion] Is FH really performing that badly?
- Thread starter Balders
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Interesting discussion between you both.
Do you think some of the names mentioned in the discussion are improving or playing to their ability (the reason we bought them)?
Granted Ayari, JPvH, Baleba…… and perhaps Gruda but the others yourself and @Guinness Boy have mentioned in some respects are possibly demonstrating what we saw when we purchased them…..
Welbeck was an England player, O’Riley a CL player, Rutter was excellent with a massive lower league team…..
Agreed. I’m not sure there’s any way to show we’ve improved former Arsenal, United and England striker Welbeck but I’ll certainly say JPVH has got better over the season as has Ayari.
Bold Seagull
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He’s having to the best stats of his career might be one way? Playing more minutes, more goal involvements, then talk of an England recall some 5 years after his last appearance. At 34 that is some achievement given the career he’s had.
Mo Gosfield
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- Aug 11, 2010
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Hurzeler is doing ok.
The hangover/love-in that still lingers post RDZ and is preventing many fans from accepting and believing in FH is clouding the facts. RDZ dropped 14 points in his second season and got an easy ride because of the previous season. The squad had lost all momentum and was largely demoralised in the second half of last season.
We had wholesale changes in the summer. Lots of new faces. With a near fully fit squad, we started well and took 7 points from the first 9. Milner and O'Riley were the first of a catalogue of injuries that have dogged us all season. The manager has been forced to experiment more than he would have liked and at times we have paid the price. The time to really start judging him is next season.
RDZ...average points per game...1.43.......FH......1.50.
The hangover/love-in that still lingers post RDZ and is preventing many fans from accepting and believing in FH is clouding the facts. RDZ dropped 14 points in his second season and got an easy ride because of the previous season. The squad had lost all momentum and was largely demoralised in the second half of last season.
We had wholesale changes in the summer. Lots of new faces. With a near fully fit squad, we started well and took 7 points from the first 9. Milner and O'Riley were the first of a catalogue of injuries that have dogged us all season. The manager has been forced to experiment more than he would have liked and at times we have paid the price. The time to really start judging him is next season.
RDZ...average points per game...1.43.......FH......1.50.
- Jul 6, 2011
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Yes but if you ignore some of RDZs games for some spurious reason then he averages over 1.7.
Mo Gosfield
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RDZ managed us for 70 games. First season...32 games 52 points. Second season 38 games 48 points. Total....100 points. Average 1.43.
( Let me know how you make that 1.7 )
- Jul 6, 2011
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I was making a joke about people cherry picking games or goals to suit their argument. I wasn't really trying to dispute your numbers.
Definitely, there is no doubt Baleba and Ayari have come on leaps and bounds, can’t argue with any of that, has to be largely down to training/coaching. Arguably, next season will be interesting for Georginio because he has talent in abundance IMO, and perhaps he’ll kick on again.
American Seagle
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- Jun 14, 2022
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So Hinshelwood is going backwards as his attacking stats are MARGINALLY down on last season. Yet Welbeck has his best attacking output ever and he is not improving either!?
Lol what a troll.
warmleyseagull
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Quoting a bit out of context. My point was that the season would be defined by the inability to beat crap teams and poor defensive record, not that it is fair to do so, or that I particularly proscribe to that view. My point was that FH could not really be blamed for either so was supporting him. Plus, as you say, there have been some very good moments.
this aged well.
As I have said many times this season, to expect a stellar performance with a relatively inexperienced manager, who has a gifted yet inexperienced young squad, is unrealistic. If we can keep this squad fully intact next season, it could well be record-breaking, but we need to keep Baleba, Mitoma, Minteh, Pedro and Rutter. This, as we are all so well aware, is our Achilles heel. That said, a couple more respectable seasons and I can see us being in the PL for the long haul.
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Silverhatch
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Taken from Foxestalk (Leicester Forum) about their search for a new manager; made me smile…
“A manager that will focus on work rate, pressing, fast attacking. A bit more chaos.
If we get a pass it to death type I’ll probably just tune out.”
Sounds like our journey from Chris to Potter to RDZ and now FH.
“A manager that will focus on work rate, pressing, fast attacking. A bit more chaos.
If we get a pass it to death type I’ll probably just tune out.”
Sounds like our journey from Chris to Potter to RDZ and now FH.
- Nov 15, 2006
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With any luck they’ll stick with horse face
Mo Gosfield
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I wouldn't trust Leicester to get anything right. The clubs that ditch experience and recruit inexperienced, glamorous " big names " invariably go backwards very quickly.With any luck they’ll stick with horse face