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[Politics] General Election 2024 - The Poll

Where's your vote going ?

  • Conservative

    Votes: 54 10.2%

  • Labour

    Votes: 265 50.0%

  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 69 13.0%

  • Green

    Votes: 49 9.2%

  • Reform UK

    Votes: 31 5.8%

  • Other

    Votes: 16 3.0%

  • Don't know

    Votes: 46 8.7%
  • Total voters
    530


Albion my Albion

Albion my Albion

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Feb 6, 2016
18,422
Indiana, USA
A1X said:
Fun fact, July 4th is Rwandan Independence Day
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July 1, 1962

Same as Canada Day.


Why is 4th July an important day in Rwanda?


This important day signifies Rwanda's transition from an oppressive and discriminatory regime to a democratic nation, honoring the courageous efforts of the Rwandan Patriotic Front in ending the tragic 1994 Genocide against Tutsi.
 
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Kalimantan Gull

Kalimantan Gull

Well-known member
Aug 13, 2003
13,134
Central Borneo / the Lizard
chickens said:
I’m perpetually stunned that there is anyone in 2024 looking at British politics and saying “Yes, this Conservative Party is the party for me.”

How is it possible to carry that much hate for yourself, your country, and everybody in it?

I understand that there are people who will never vote Labour, and that’s fine, the Liberal Democrats exist as a perfectly reasonable centre-right party who aren’t Labour.

If your politics are much further to the right, Reform has your back, they’re there to vote for.

What I genuinely can’t get is anyone watching Rishi Sunak in the rain, as if the British government can no longer afford to host events indoors, and thinking “this incarnation of the Conservative Party is so effective and well-run, another five years of this is EXACTLY what Britain needs.”

I’d be interested in learning whether the IP addresses of those who have voted Conservative actually originated from within the UK. I fear NSC has been targeted in a Russian cyberattack. And @Is it PotG? of course.
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I would be genuinely interested to see what the result might be if we had full PR - in that case Reform could smash the Tories. On second thoughts maybe its a good thing we don't and the Tories are there as a home for the reasonable right-of-centre people
 


Psychobilly freakout

Psychobilly freakout

HellBilly
Feb 23, 2009
23,491
Brighton factually.....
I can’t just can’t vote Tory.
Lib dem is a wasted voted.
The Greens just can’t deliver, another wasted voted.
reform or whatever is as good as NF in my eyes, ridiculous party.
That basically leaves Labour, I understand from my dear wife who met Keir several times through work for Camden Council he is charming, passionate, attentive, cares about issues and listens…..
to be honest, I don’t trust him, there’s something wrong, he can’t be the messiah, we fell for that shite before with Blair & his new labour, remember how that turned out, weapons of mass destruction.
im not bothering
 
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Thunder Bolt

Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Aug 18, 2009
66,139
Beside the seaside, beside the sea
Psychobilly freakout said:
I can’t just can’t vote Tory.
Lib dem is a wasted voted.
The Greens just can’t deliver, another wasted voted.
reform or whatever is as good as NF in my eyes, ridiculous party.
That basically leaves Labour, I understand from my dear wife who met him several times through work for Camden Council he is charming, passionate, attentive, cares about issues and listens…..
to be honest, I don’t trust him, there’s something wrong, he can’t be the messiah, we fell for that shite before with Blair & his new labour, reme
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You’ll never find a perfect candidate so pick the one nearest to what you want, or are you looking for an excuse not to vote?
 




Psychobilly freakout

Psychobilly freakout

HellBilly
Feb 23, 2009
23,491
Brighton factually.....
Thunder Bolt said:
You’ll never find a perfect candidate so pick the one nearest to what you want, or are you looking for an excuse not to vote?
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I think I will vote Labour, to be honest.

I don’t want to be a hypocrite though and in four years time be on here moaning about how labour fecked it up.

So maybe I don’t want that guilt so actually again I’ve changed my mind I won’t bother.

Im torn.
 




Randy McNob

Randy McNob

Now go home and get your f#cking Shinebox
Jun 13, 2020
4,540
Kalimantan Gull said:
I would be genuinely interested to see what the result might be if we had full PR - in that case Reform could smash the Tories. On second thoughts maybe its a good thing we don't and the Tories are there as a home for the reasonable right-of-centre people
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I disagree, support for Reform is greatly exagerated, it is an illusion created by the right wing dominated media, who platform people like Tice and Farage 24/7 to convince people they are the voice of the 'silent majority', but if you look at actual votes they represent about 1-3% of the electorate. They only have 10 councillors after a recent anti-Tory local election! Farage is paraded as some sort of 'man of the people' but never won an election, if he was so popular he would romp an election and stand at this election but he won't as he knows he will get found out. He'd rather leave it to Tice, a prat who'll be forgotten after the election

Reform are the party of the Murdoch empire who's main objective is to pull the Tories further to the right
 




Leekbrookgull

Leekbrookgull

Well-known member
Jul 14, 2005
16,291
Leek
It will be interesting to see if individuals like Jeremy Corbyn and George Galloway stand in their various seats and what impact they may possibly have.
 


Hamilton

Hamilton

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 7, 2003
12,656
Brighton
Psychobilly freakout said:
I think I will vote Labour, to be honest.

I don’t want to be a hypocrite though and in four years time be on here moaning about how labour fecked it up.

So maybe I don’t want that guilt so actually again I’ve changed my mind I won’t bother.

Im torn.
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Please vote.

Apathy is what certain parties are relying on. Especially with younger voters.
 


Kalimantan Gull

Kalimantan Gull

Well-known member
Aug 13, 2003
13,134
Central Borneo / the Lizard
Randy McNob said:
I disagree, support for Reform is greatly exagerated, it is an illusion created by the right wing dominated media, who platform people like Tice and Farage 24/7 to convince people they are the voice of the 'silent majority', but if you look at actual votes they represent about 1-3% of the electorate. They only have 10 councillors after a recent anti-Tory local election! Farage is paraded as some sort of 'man of the people' but never won an election, if he was so popular he would romp an election and stand at this election but he won't as he knows he will get found out. He'd rather leave it to Tice, a prat who'll be forgotten after the election

Reform are the party of the Murdoch empire who's main objective is to pull the Tories further to the right
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They took around 11% of the vote in the recent local elections in areas where they were standing - thats substantive and took place in a first past the post system, it would be higher in a full PR election.
 




Thunder Bolt

Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Aug 18, 2009
66,139
Beside the seaside, beside the sea
Psychobilly freakout said:
I think I will vote Labour, to be honest.

I don’t want to be a hypocrite though and in four years time be on here moaning about how labour fecked it up.

So maybe I don’t want that guilt so actually again I’ve changed my mind I won’t bother.

Im torn.
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Whoever gets in has a big mess to clear up. It’s not going to be easy, but I believe you should vote. Nobody can see the future, nor should they feel guilty over their choices.
 




Randy McNob

Randy McNob

Now go home and get your f#cking Shinebox
Jun 13, 2020
4,540
Psychobilly freakout said:
I think I will vote Labour, to be honest.

I don’t want to be a hypocrite though and in four years time be on here moaning about how labour fecked it up.

So maybe I don’t want that guilt so actually again I’ve changed my mind I won’t bother.

Im torn.
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Is there a time when the country voted in Labour and they 'fecked it up'? Yet the Tories always 'feck it up' in the end

In the last 40 odd years we've had Tories and 1 period of Blair / Brown. That new labour period was the best time of government of that 40+ year period, year upon year of growth, better investment in public services, stronger NHS and most importantly a united country. The Tories have only ever brought division, wealth inequality and decline in public services as they only serve the interests of the wealthy.

Judge parties on their record - not preconceptions or misconceptions
 




pasty

pasty

A different kind of pasty
Jul 5, 2003
30,485
West, West, West Sussex
Gabbiano said:
The best chance possibly ever for Horsham to not return a Tory. But it's still probably more likely than not going to be Quin.

Electoral Calculus have Horsham down as a rare three-way race but god knows how they work that out on a seat by seat basis.

With a LD majority council now, there are real signs of political will for change in the area. Plus some of the Tory voting bits have transferred to the new East Grinstead seat.

It could happen... Maybe.

Mid Sussex is significantly more likely though.
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This is my first GE since moving to Horsham and I won’t be voting Tory, so at least one less vote 👍 Probably go LD but undecided right now.
 




Bold Seagull

Bold Seagull

strong and stable with me, or...
Mar 18, 2010
29,953
Hove
Psychobilly freakout said:
I think I will vote Labour, to be honest.

I don’t want to be a hypocrite though and in four years time be on here moaning about how labour fecked it up.

So maybe I don’t want that guilt so actually again I’ve changed my mind I won’t bother.

Im torn.
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There is no utopia, so ultimately Labour will fail to some degree as too much needs doing.

It’s not just the visible things like pot holes, decaying public buildings, leaking schools and such, it’s been the slow decline and chipping away at our healthcare, education, defence and public services generally.

There is no magic wand, so I’m not even sure what you measure success against, but success isn’t a huge step when measured against the shit show of the last decade.
 






Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
52,067
Faversham
Kalimantan Gull said:
I would be genuinely interested to see what the result might be if we had full PR - in that case Reform could smash the Tories. On second thoughts maybe its a good thing we don't and the Tories are there as a home for the reasonable right-of-centre people
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Stand by for endless weeping from Greens, Liberals and Farage supporters complaining it isn't fair they don't have enough MPs to form a coalition, er, with the Tories. Or Labour. Don't mind really, as long a we can saw we are 'in power'. Hooray!

:facepalm:
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
52,067
Faversham
armchairclubber said:
I'm particularly interested to see how Andrew Feinstein will do against Keir Starmer. If I were in the constituency, he'd certainly get my vote


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You want the tories to win, then? :shrug:

Perfectly reasonable aspiration, of course.
One I can't support, however.
 


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