The government might think they are fooling the British people. They forget though, the world is watching. A world that we rely on, increasingly.
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[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...
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Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
They’ve already tried Ofcom by trying to install Paul Dacre.
worthingseagull123
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- May 5, 2012
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We’ve had 13 years of cuts to Immigration Services and state provisions.
We are living with the consequences.
nicko31
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But I really don't think they care if the net result is self harm to the UK, their only concern is popularity and holding onto power. If joining Russia and Belarus in the cold outside the ECHR resulted in a them winning the red wall voters over they wouldn't give a toss.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
True, and making millions doing it. Power, greed and money are their motivations.
Austrian Gull
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The whole stop the boats masquerade is a desperate attempt to cling onto the red wall seats.
Time will tell if the public are gullible enough to believe this horse manure....
Time will tell if the public are gullible enough to believe this horse manure....
dsr-burnley
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- Aug 15, 2014
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Is it permissible on this board to abuse people on the basis of their skin colour or their gender?
BBassic
I changed this.
- Jul 28, 2011
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Of course not, this isn't BurnleyIs it permissible on this board to abuse people on the basis of their skin colour or their gender?
dsr-burnley
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- Aug 15, 2014
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Politics is banned on Burnley's forum. Too much intolerance, and in more than one direction.Of course not, this isn't Burnley
- Aug 24, 2020
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A far-right politician describes Sunak's plan as 'harsh but fair'.
'Italy’s far-right deputy PM praises Rishi Sunak’s ‘harsh but fair’ small boats plan – UK politics live'
'https://www.theguardian.com/politic...tion-pledges-conservatives-uk-politics-latest'
'Italy’s far-right deputy PM praises Rishi Sunak’s ‘harsh but fair’ small boats plan – UK politics live'
'https://www.theguardian.com/politic...tion-pledges-conservatives-uk-politics-latest'
Imagine being intolerant of racism. Disgusting.
- Oct 17, 2008
- 10,843
NSC certainly isn’t all tolerance and light in politics threads! Big difference between being fanatical about a political party and just plain racism though…
I haven't visited this thread for month's - nothing's changed!
Gary Lineker is again is a hero by comparing the governments immigration strategy to that of the Nazi's in the 1930's .
If you are honest, if you are intelligent, if you are young or old and wise, if you pride yourself in wanting the truth - get yourself a copy of Thames Televisions 1970's acclaimed series "The World at War". Every episode is extraordinary but in the context of Gary's claim three episodes stand out -
"A New Germany (1933–1939)"
"The final solution Part One"
"The final solution Part Two"
You will see real evidence of the absolute depravity of human begins - you will see total hatred, humiliation, the destruction of civilization whipped up by mind-blowing propaganda - you will see the actual footage and stupefyingly horrific murder of men, women and children - not acted - real footage - with survivors harrowing interviews and on a scale utterly, utterly inconceivable.
If you do this, you will view poor old Gary with sympathy and sadness!
en.wikipedia.org
Gary Lineker is again is a hero by comparing the governments immigration strategy to that of the Nazi's in the 1930's .
If you are honest, if you are intelligent, if you are young or old and wise, if you pride yourself in wanting the truth - get yourself a copy of Thames Televisions 1970's acclaimed series "The World at War". Every episode is extraordinary but in the context of Gary's claim three episodes stand out -
"A New Germany (1933–1939)"
"The final solution Part One"
"The final solution Part Two"
You will see real evidence of the absolute depravity of human begins - you will see total hatred, humiliation, the destruction of civilization whipped up by mind-blowing propaganda - you will see the actual footage and stupefyingly horrific murder of men, women and children - not acted - real footage - with survivors harrowing interviews and on a scale utterly, utterly inconceivable.
If you do this, you will view poor old Gary with sympathy and sadness!
The World at War - Wikipedia
nicko31
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You do wonder how Andrew Neil got away with being a political anchor on the Beeb for all those years whilst simultaneously being Chair of the Spectator magazine. Food for thought....
Well, except the appointment of Sue Gray as his "Chief of Staff" (whatever that may be). Not only was that giving the Tories ammunition, but the gun to fire the ammunition as well, then shooting himself in the foot with it.
That shows a total lack of political judgement on Starmer's part. It was daft. Wait until the GE is done and dusted and THEN appoint her. His refusal to say when he first contacted Gray to offer her the job also stinks. If you having neither to hide Sir Starmer, why are you going to such lengths to hide it?
- Oct 17, 2008
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I found Neil on the whole impartial and a good host.
- Oct 17, 2008
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As I said earlier in the thread, it’s very poor optics. If it were the other away around it’d be “Tories manipulated Gray, typical sleaze” etc. But you’ll notice I don’t do political sniping or point scoring. I hate this government but wouldn’t be averse to voting Tory one day in the future if they were the right option for the country, on a constituency level or to keep others out.
Starmer could frankly be in the throes of a passionate sexual affair with Sue Gray right now for all I care and I’ll still vote Labour to get the Tories out.
Manifestos mean SFA anyway. Lots of promises which are never kept. I recall the last GE Labour manifesto gave a commitment to "respect the result of the Brexit referendum". They didn't. They argued and bickered and then came up with no policy whatsoever.
Manifestos are just pages of empty, hollow "promises". That is the way they have always been.
Of course. Me too. But he really didn't need all the bad press from "Graygate", which was of his own making, which has certainly diverted media attention away from more important and pressing issues.
I am far from convinced that Starmer is the astute politician we need to solve our country's woes. But I have no choice but to give him the chance.