Wow it’s real, so that was the last meeting then 22 September and no apologies in the minutes for absentee’s 
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[Albion] Fan advisory board
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seagullwedgee
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If the FAB has quarterly meetings with the Club, why was the last meeting with them 119 days ago? And why, back then in mid-September, was no date set for the next meeting? And, why did only 2 FAB Members dial in to that September Zoom meeting? Is your friend suggesting that all is going well, the consultative process is working well, that meetings are happening at the agreed intervals, and that the participation numbers and momentum is good? If the FAB members are as he suggests meeting amongst themselves weekly, they must have had 15 meetings amongst themselves since the last meeting with the Club - dare I ask what on Earth is the point of that?
I wouldn’t say it is lip service. Any sensible person would surely want to try and engage and better understand their customer base? And Bloom is certainly a sensible person. That said, I’m not sure the way this was originally conceived is optimal to achieve these goals.
I heard that a number of the members had been booted off the board. Maybe there were only two left?Wow it’s real, so that was the last meeting then 22 September and no apologies in the minutes for absentee’s
Not my friend... just some woman. Both of those who "attended" (bothered to log into Microsoft Teams) in September are members different Albionian (Albionese?) Facebook groups and pretty easy to get in contact with, it seems. I'm sure you can contact them (I'm not the right person to do it) with those questions and get a decent answer.
seagullwedgee
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At least two were sacked for breaching confidentiality guidelines, I know that much. But I thought there were likely 20 to 24 members appointed. I remember reading the member profiles when they were first selected. Assuming there were 24, two were sacked, two actually dialled in, which means the other 20 chose not to dial in on a miserable Thursday evening in mid September. Had those 20 already decided it was a pointless lip service exercise? Or did they boycott in protest at the sackings? Or were they all busy cooking dinner, helping with homework, or doing evening voluntary work perhaps? 91% non-attendance for a scheduled Zoom meeting, when in the lead-up period you’ve been having preparatory meetings weekly to ensure you have solid views and factual inputs ready, does seem a just a little extreme….
Dick Swiveller
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Definitely not your friend if you think it is a woman.
No, just eight.
Oops... tbf there was a lot of people on his Facebook photo and I'm not that familiar with Indian names
brighton_tom
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- Jul 23, 2008
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I think the 20 you're referring to was people who made the shortlist to vote for. 8 were then selected from that.
seagullwedgee
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Understood, thanks.
Shame as was a good idea that supporters had an avenue to bring up concerns/ideas to the club. Soon after selection process always suspected nothing was going to happen as not publicised or contact details given out.
Maybe I am a little cynical in saying PB has achieved what he wanted to be able to tell PL etc that they listen to supporters and have in place a FAB. The fact nothing happens, can't be contacted or come on to forums like this for concerns to raise is neither here or there
Maybe I am a little cynical in saying PB has achieved what he wanted to be able to tell PL etc that they listen to supporters and have in place a FAB. The fact nothing happens, can't be contacted or come on to forums like this for concerns to raise is neither here or there
Yeah it's weird. Currently if the info on this thread is correct then it's the sort of exercise a crap owner would do: set up a Fan Advisory Board to 'prove' they were listening; then quickly stop convening formal meetings and additionally tell the members they aren't allowed to canvas opinion from the wider fanbase and must only talk secretly amongst themselves.
We must be missing something because as you say TB is too sensible for this to have been his plan.
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If only 2/8 turned up, doesn’t appear to suggest a quorum was held (assuming there is one?) so why not rescheduled? *
If people have been removed shirely others should be given the opportunity to stand?
* appreciate it’s not an official committee in that sense as they don’t have decision making power but a bit structure and commitment is needed surely?
If people have been removed shirely others should be given the opportunity to stand?
* appreciate it’s not an official committee in that sense as they don’t have decision making power but a bit structure and commitment is needed surely?
Apparently this was discussed in the September meeting and this was the agreement:
"To hold off recruiting additional FAB members until Summer. That allows them on a 2 year term which means we always have some continuity on FAB and don’t change everyone every 2 years "
seagullwedgee
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Unless of course, the FAB has 8 members, but only 2 (representing the views of the 8) are allowed to attend the formal meeting with the club, such that in the formal meeting there are 2 FAB members, and 2 Club employees, so the Club employees don’t feel outnumbered on the call itself, whilst PB can still, as you say, state that we have a formal fan engagement process in place.
It just seems weird, that with everything that has gone on in the last 4 months that a) there have been no meetings, b) there has been no debate, c) there have been no recorded actions, d) there have been no updates shared on the Club site, and e) that the published actions from both the August and September meetings were pretty insignificant isolated odd matters, many of which remain not concluded even now 4 months later. Did the FAB process and membership really not raise any debate, comment or fan concerns surrounding the Charlton ticket debacle, for example?
It just seems weird, that with everything that has gone on in the last 4 months that a) there have been no meetings, b) there has been no debate, c) there have been no recorded actions, d) there have been no updates shared on the Club site, and e) that the published actions from both the August and September meetings were pretty insignificant isolated odd matters, many of which remain not concluded even now 4 months later. Did the FAB process and membership really not raise any debate, comment or fan concerns surrounding the Charlton ticket debacle, for example?
He is. But who says it was TB's plan?
This has all the hallmarks of "he who can never be wrong".
brighton_tom
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If anyone wants to enquire about whats going on...
I emailed Jenny Gower (jenny.gower@brightonandhovealbion.com - Head of Supporter services) during last year with some questions about the FAB, and she was quick to reply with decent responses. She later in the conversation gave me the generic email for FAB enquiries (fanadvisoryboard@bhafc.co.uk).
I emailed Jenny Gower (jenny.gower@brightonandhovealbion.com - Head of Supporter services) during last year with some questions about the FAB, and she was quick to reply with decent responses. She later in the conversation gave me the generic email for FAB enquiries (fanadvisoryboard@bhafc.co.uk).
studio150
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And the use of American English spellcheck given the use of favor rather than favour.Wow it’s real, so that was the last meeting then 22 September and no apologies in the minutes for absentee’s