[NSC] Eddie nkitiah

[Stat Brother]

You didn’t say anything directly to me regarding your trolling, and you’ll have to forgive me, I don’t read every single one of your ramblings. So putting that to one side, obviously there’s a chance the next striker might also be utterly incompetent in front of goal, especially given that we’re highly unlikely to be purchasing someone with a top level pedigree.

Regarding the Burnley game, I suspect it’ll be a tough game, they have good defenders and make life tricky for the opposition, I imagine we’ll create 4 or 5 very good chances and will most likely make an utter hash of most of them.
Ultimately, it doesn’t really matter which formation or system or personnel we play, our forwards aren’t good enough, Danny Welbeck is the exception but getting a run of games out of him is tough.

One last thing, why are you so upset with people have an opinion that doesn’t align with your own? You’ve been constantly branded such folk as ‘idiots’ and ‘deluded’ . You go out of your way to have a different opinion, calling people names seems unnecessary considering an awful lot of people on this forum believe that with the assistance of a semi competent forward we could easily increase our points tally.

If that were the case you would be correct.
But the deluded idiots aren't posters with opinions who don't align with my own, they are posters who aren't aligned with reality.

Last season the team didn't win half the games they drew - they drew all the games the drew.
The team didn't get the 6 points they deserved from palace - they got 1 (one).
The team didn't win games against a relegated sides - they earned only 3 (three) points, not sure about that.
Yes the team did finish 4 points from 12th - but spent the entire season 16th and 17th and every single opportunity it got to climb up from they choked on.

I've read that delusion so many times, since Arsenal, I genuinely think posters believe it and the facts from last season are slipping away.

Then, just to ice the cake, the most Potter era defining performance is presented to us on Friday and that gets written off as 'good to get this out of the system in preseason'.

You can't get DNA out of your system, hence it not being the world's biggest leap from that to 'what if the next man up is also shite?' - a question I know I can play with!



As for Burnley we're gonna win 1 - 37 and be hailed as Champions of the Solar System.

 

[b.w.2.]

In this thread he said this

"I think signing Eddie Nketiah could be a decent move. I could see him explode in the right environment. Difficult to get the chance in Arsenal as they have some expensive strikers they are a bit desperate to get some value out of. In Brighton he would have the chance to compete on fair terms. Wouldnt mind him coming"

I'm not quite sure he has the anti striker agenda you seem weirdly obsessed about.

We (Swanny and me) spent many happy hours debating his moronic assertion that we don’t need a striker, instead he suggested we should just miraculously score more from midfield (another of our scoring weaknesses, but not our primary problem).

 

[b.w.2.]

no. you're hysterical. he stated that he would like a shiny new striker, but that is only one way to score more goals; specifically, the midfield chipping in with another 10-15 between them. you've got way too much invested in this to see reality for what it is and admit you're wrong

I am not going to admit I am wrong when I am not Roger. See above.


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[Swansman]

Swanny has consistently argued we don’t need to sign a striker. Consistently and obviously incorrectly. Consistently suggesting we will improve upfront without investment. We won’t.

I agree with EVERYTHING you say apart from your ill-advised support of Swanny.


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What I have said over the last year:
1. Brighton is currently a bottom 5 club (or worse) in the striker department, but it is quite young and likely to improve.

2. The same goes for the midfield when it comes to attacking players. Trossard, so far, is good every 5th game. Ali J getting a lot of game time at the end was a weakness. Macallister in his 10 game run as an AMC produced pretty much **** all.

3. It would be nice with a new striker and/or attacking midfielder/winger, but with or without it, the sun will rise in the east and go down in the west. The defense looks good and the defensive & build up qualities of the midfield is also very nice, and this along with the improvement potential in the players higher up the pitch makes me believe there's no reason to believe in some impending doomsday.

At no point did I say it wouldnt be good with a new, better-than-the-rest striker - it just isnt necessary.

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

We (Swanny and me) spent many happy hours debating his moronic assertion that we don’t need a striker, instead he suggested we should just miraculously score more from midfield (another of our scoring weaknesses, but not our primary problem).

It wouldn't be miraculous to get more goals from many sources.

Lallana could score more
Trossard could score more
Mwepu looks likely to chip in
Mac Allister should probably score a few more

It's a logical suggestion

 

[Swansman]

If that were the case you would be correct.
But the deluded idiots aren't posters with opinions who don't align with my own, they are posters who aren't aligned with reality.

Last season the team didn't win half the games they drew - they drew all the games the drew.
The team didn't get the 6 points they deserved from palace - they got 1 (one).
The team didn't win games against a relegated sides - they earned only 3 (three) points, not sure about that.
Yes the team did finish 4 points from 12th - but spent the entire season 16th and 17th and every single opportunity it got to climb up from they choked on.

I've read that delusion so many times, since Arsenal, I genuinely think posters believe it and the facts from last season are slipping away.

Then, just to ice the cake, the most Potter era defining performance is presented to us on Friday and that gets written off as 'good to get this out of the system in preseason'.

You can't get DNA out of your system, hence it not being the world's biggest leap from that to 'what if the next man up is also shite?' - a question I know I can play with!



As for Burnley we're gonna win 1 - 37 and be hailed as Champions of the Solar System.

Do you have one example of anyone stating the opposite?

 

[Stat Brother]

The same people berating the club for not signing a striker will be berating the club for signing a striker.

It'll be impossible for the club to sign a striker who can score the amount of goals 'we' deem worthy of the job.
We, and by that I mean all on planet football fan, have unrealistic expectations about total scored, conversion percentage and shots saved.

I do honestly believe if the next man up can consistently score, literally, 1 in 3.8, no October hattricks followed by 2 months of cow's arse, the returns from the others would greatly improve.

You only have to look at their goals, esp Connolly, to know he"s the real deal on the pitch.
I think they need someone to take the 'if I miss this, they'll deflect in a corner and we'll lose' pressure away from them.
I think they need a 'its ok the big dog will save us' consistent scorer in order to then score more themselves.

They all wanna be the alpha - none of them are.

 

[b.w.2.]

It wouldn't be miraculous to get more goals from many sources.

Lallana could score more
Trossard could score more
Mwepu looks likely to chip in
Mac Allister should probably score a few more

It's a logical suggestion

Obvs. But not the priority


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[b.w.2.]

What I have said over the last year:
1. Brighton is currently a bottom 5 club (or worse) in the striker department, but it is quite young and likely to improve.

2. The same goes for the midfield when it comes to attacking players. Trossard, so far, is good every 5th game. Ali J getting a lot of game time at the end was a weakness. Macallister in his 10 game run as an AMC produced pretty much **** all.

3. It would be nice with a new striker and/or attacking midfielder/winger, but with or without it, the sun will rise in the east and go down in the west. The defense looks good and the defensive & build up qualities of the midfield is also very nice, and this along with the improvement potential in the players higher up the pitch makes me believe there's no reason to believe in some impending doomsday.

At no point did I say it wouldnt be good with a new, better-than-the-rest striker - it just isnt necessary.

Admit you said you think we don’t need to sign a striker because we can just score more from midfield


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[Swansman]

Admit you said you think we don’t need to sign a striker because we can just score more from midfield


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It would be very helpful indeed. While the strikers are not particularly good with measured by PL standards, I believe the difference is even bigger in that the AMC/winger department.

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

Admit you said you think we don’t need to sign a striker because we can just score more from midfield


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I'd ask you this. How many goals do you think our lead striker should be scoring in a season in the PL.

 

[dazzer6666]

It would be very helpful indeed. While the strikers are not particularly good with measured by PL standards, I believe the difference is even bigger in that the AMC/winger department.

Agreed. The ideal (target possibly?) solution for me is a couple of strikers getting 10-15 each, and a much better contribution from midfield……….getting a 15+ goal a season striker isn’t that likely unless we get lucky or someone has a blinder. Getting Maupay and AN other to contribute 20-25 between them should be, and a similar number again from the midfield combined likewise. Bissouma, March, Lallana, Groß and Tross at least don’t score enough from the often decent chances they are getting. Mwepu looks like he is capable of getting a few, as does Moder.

 

[rogersix]

I'd ask you this. How many goals do you think our lead striker should be scoring in a season in the PL.

25, from open play

 

[Mellotron]

It wouldn't be miraculous to get more goals from many sources.

Lallana could score more
Trossard could score more
Mwepu looks likely to chip in
Mac Allister should probably score a few more

It's a logical suggestion

This. Our midfield scored very few last season, given the amount of chances.

 

[Stat Brother]

Agreed. The ideal (target possibly?) solution for me is a couple of strikers getting 10-15 each, and a much better contribution from midfield……….getting a 15+ goal a season striker isn’t that likely unless we get lucky or someone has a blinder. Getting Maupay and AN other to contribute 20-25 between them should be, and a similar number again from the midfield combined likewise. Bissouma, March, Lallana, Groß and Tross at least don’t score enough from the often decent chances they are getting. Mwepu looks like he is capable of getting a few, as does Moder.

I'm sorry to do this but:-

Why should this season be any different to the last 1, 2 and even 3 previous seasons?

 

[dazzer6666]

I'm sorry to do this but:-

Why should this season be any different to the last 1, 2 and even 3 previous seasons?

Because live in hope…..

 

[DJ NOBO]

Nketiah’s record doesn’t justify a fee over £10-15m.
A loan with an option to buy would be good though.

 

[Swansman]

I'm sorry to do this but:-

Why should this season be any different to the last 1, 2 and even 3 previous seasons?

Brighton had the fourth youngest squad last season.

Even if you dont, some people develop.

 

[Stat Brother]

Because live in hope…..

You know what kills you, right?





The Tross has no excuses but aside from him there should be no expectation for more goals from:-

March - just ain't gonna happen.
Bissouma - The last thing this team needs is him shooting more.
Gross - How will he put the ball on a plate for the others?
Lallana - Let's be honest here, the team look better when he's playing, so just be grateful for that.

As for the new guys -

 

[dazzer6666]

You know what kills you, right?





The Tross has no excuses but aside from him there should be no expectation for goals from:-

March - just ain't gonna happen.
Bissouma - The last thing this team needs is him shooting more.
Gross - How will he put the ball on a plate for the others?
Lallana - Let's be honest here, the team look better when he's playing, so just be grateful for that.

As for the new guys -

Well I’m not going to start the season with ‘no expectation’ from them and I doubt Potter is either………