[Politics] Brexit

[JC Footy Genius]

And your response to my specific points, please is.....?

It's an interesting concept taking personal responsibility for job losses under a government you vote for. Have you done this in the past? If yes do you also.personally take credit for jobs created? Does this extend to other policy decisions .. .you almost certainly voted for Blair does personal responsibility extend to the death toll in Iraq?

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[Baker lite]

I suppose the real point is, do you really care about job losses? It was your vote that brought them about. How comfortable are you with this? It's easy to talk of generalities (sovereignty etc) but when some poor buggers in Littlehampton lose their jobs, it's uncomfortably real, isn't it? This is not 'crocodile tears'; this is grim reality and 'consequences'. Consequences that some of us identified and which have never been fully acknowledged by others. So here's the chance to do so......

Another hysterical woopsy talking of his tea towel holder.
Where do you sad sacks get off on all the bollox you spout?


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[nicko31]

Another day, another group of victims



All completely avoidable, Johnson and his cronies were offered an extension in the middle of a global pandemic. They refused it

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Another day, another group of victims

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All completely avoidable, Johnson and his cronies were offered an extension in the middle of a global pandemic. They refused it

PMSL
Regards
DF

 

[Chicken Run]

Another day, another group of victims

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All completely avoidable, Johnson and his cronies were offered an extension in the middle of a global pandemic. They refused it

 

[birthofanorange]

I see the troll squad minibus has arrived early, today.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Trawling through the on line news for anything that makes the EU loons on here feel better about themselves just about sums it all up these days ,what have they achieved? ........ sweet fanny Adam's, keep em coming chaps


Regards
DF

 

[Baker lite]

I see the troll squad minibus has arrived early, today.

I see the condescending helmets have woken from their slumber.
*yawn*


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[nicko31]

It's an interesting concept taking personal responsibility

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Its never too late JC...

 

[Chicken Run]

I see the troll squad minibus has arrived early, today.

 

[Chicken Run]

I see the condescending helmets have woken from their slumber.
*yawn*


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He was up all night gaming, give the lad a chance!

 

[Garry Nelson's teacher]

It's an interesting concept taking personal responsibility for job losses under a government you vote for. Have you done this in the past? If yes do you also.personally take credit for jobs created? Does this extend to other policy decisions .. .you almost certainly voted for Blair does personal responsibility extend to the death toll in Iraq?

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This is pretty weak, TBH. Low grade GCSE level sophistry

Let's imagine that Tony Blair had a referendum on the invasion of Iraq (your chosen parallel, not mine). If I'd have spent 5 years or so arguing in favour of it, insulting those who were against it (5th Columnists, anyone?) and then, after it had turned out to be a complete and utter disaster simply evaded the questions (sound familiar?), I'd be a tiny bit ashamed of myself. I might even admit I was wrong - or at least that it hadn't turned out quite how I thought it would*.
So how do you feel about those job losses? (My 3rd time of asking.)

*This would be a pretty weak defence, but at least it answers the question.

 

[Is it PotG?]

Another day, another group of victims

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All completely avoidable, Johnson and his cronies were offered an extension in the middle of a global pandemic. They refused it

Can't they use those chaps down in Napier Barracks? Give them something to take their mind off how bad conditions are, many look as if this would be right up their street en route to becoming surgeons and health workers.

 

[daveinplzen]

Apart from unelected bureaucrats joining the Cabinet, what are the Brexiteers avoiding here today? Maybe it's just one line nothings, maybe a list of Brexit positives. I wonder what it will be.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

This is pretty weak, TBH. Low grade GCSE level sophistry

Let's imagine that Tony Blair had a referendum on the invasion of Iraq (your chosen parallel, not mine). If I'd have spent 5 years or so arguing in favour of it, insulting those who were against it (5th Columnists, anyone?) and then, after it had turned out to be a complete and utter disaster simply evaded the questions (sound familiar?), I'd be a tiny bit ashamed of myself. I might even admit I was wrong - or at least that it hadn't turned out quite how I thought it would*.
So how do you feel about those job losses? (My 3rd time of asking.)

*This would be a pretty weak defence, but at least it answers the question.

Evasion. Do you think people should be held personally responsible for the outcome of their votes or not? I'm getting the feeling you expect it of others but not yourself.

 

[A1X]

Can't they use those chaps down in Napier Barracks? Give them something to take their mind off how bad conditions are, many look as if this would be right up their street en route to becoming surgeons and health workers.

Wait, you want to see foreign labourers doing low-paid manual work when there are plenty of unemployed British people who could do it? That's not a very Brexit mindset.

 

[nicko31]

Apart from unelected bureaucrats joining the Cabinet, what are the Brexiteers avoiding here today? Maybe it's just one line nothings, maybe a list of Brexit positives. I wonder what it will be.

We're still stuck on the tampons tax and the vaccines we signed up for when we were still following EU rules.

One day, maybe one day we might get something truly measurable. One of NSC most vocal leave posters has recently returned from exile, there is hope...

 

[nicko31]

Wait, you want to see foreign labourers doing low-paid manual work when there are plenty of unemployed British people who could do it? That's not a very Brexit mindset.

He's going soft, not nearly Brexity enough for my liking...

 

[Garry Nelson's teacher]

Evasion. Do you think people should be held personally responsible for the outcome of their votes or not? I'm getting the feeling you expect it of others but not yourself.

Coming from the current King of Evasion that's bit rich. But yes I do/would, why not? Obviously it's not accountability in the political sense. However we don't vote for govts on a single issue unlike a referendum. so it's a bit of a false equivalent. I think you know this. (And I wasn't actually asking you to take responsibility - the wording was just 'how do you feel'?)

So why not answer my question (4th time)? It's OK, I won't ask again. But this sort of thing ((job losses and the like) will be pointed out - and completely justifiably - for as long as this thread lasts, so I guess you might as well get used to it.

 

[Is it PotG?]

Wait, you want to see foreign labourers doing low-paid manual work when there are plenty of unemployed British people who could do it? That's not a very Brexit mindset.

Unlike you, I was thinking of these hapless souls' well being.

Being surrounded by flowers on a daily basis might lighten their burden.