[Other Sport] IOC want vaccine priority for athletes so the Olympics can go ahead.

[zefarelly]

Finally, if the rate limiting step in vaccination is the physical act of a nurse taking a syringe and jabbing a patient, and every available nurse in the country is working flat out jabbing people, it is of course wrong for footballers, pole vaulters and olympic skateboarders to jump the queue. However, if there are warehouses full of vaccine and the rate limiting step is filling vans and disbursing vaccine around the country, then why are we not asking for volunteers from among the white van man community to help step up disbursement? My concern is that the logistics of the vaccination programme haven't been properly managed. It would not surprise me therefore to find this is allowing all sorts of queue jumping if you know how to go about it. Think the cabinet haven't already been vaccinated? The royals? Hmmmm....if there is slack in the system people will find a way to nip into the queue just like the fleet of foot in the queue for the escalator in the underground....wouldn't surprise me the find footballers and olympians have 'located' a 'surplus' crate of vaccine that 'would have gone off', at some point. Perhaps I'm wrong. Old cynic...

A given.

Nothing cynical about it, anyone from MP to up will have been done already, or will be before the end of the month. I bet the HoP has a medical centre, Nurses and a Matron. 2 mirrored departments probably, one for genuine nedical rewuirements and one for 'Carry on regardless' purposes.

 

[blue-shifted]

Olympics should go back another year.

It won't clash with the world cup as this is in December.

Not ideal, but that's life at the moment.

It does provide the chance for a fully attended, low risk games.

 

[Notters]

They’ve read the room well.

 

[nicko31]

We are due to be vaccinating 1,000,000 a week, 250 athletes isn't going to make much of a difference. I can see why it would be bad PR but I wouldn't really have a problem with athletes going into the 5th priority group late in February. It could open up a can of worms though as other sport would ask for similar priority.

Just go ahead and do it, vaccinating a few thousand athletes is a drop in the ocean...

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Just go ahead and do it, vaccinating a few thousand athletes is a drop in the ocean...

It's not just the athletes tho is it. There's a huge number of people involved in making the Olympics happen at ground level, everything from judges to medical staff to athlete village staff to transport drivers etc etc

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

This.

With flu we need a new vaccine every year. Covid will be the same. Now we know how to make a covid vaccine it will be easier to make a vaccine for Covid-20. My concern is that the vaccine being deployed now was made for Covid-19 and although the virologists I have heard interviewed are optimistic that our current vaccines will work on the new variants, they don't actually know, yet.

All that said, I remain, as I was last summer in the 'vaccinate the old and vulnerable and let everyone else get back to normal life' camp. The remaining concern is that I suspect it will take much longer to vaccinate the old (and by that I mean over 50s) and immunocompromised than people originally suggested. The caveat, of course, is that we an't return to normal until the vulnerable are all protected (by vaccination).

Oh, and I remain implacably opposed to the dangerous twits who have been arguing that we should just go back to normal before vaccination is in place. Most of those on NSC I have on ignore, because telling people repeatedly that they are advocating genocide of the old and immunocompromised gets a bit boring after a while.

Finally, if the rate limiting step in vaccination is the physical act of a nurse taking a syringe and jabbing a patient, and every available nurse in the country is working flat out jabbing people, it is of course wrong for footballers, pole vaulters and olympic skateboarders to jump the queue. However, if there are warehouses full of vaccine and the rate limiting step is filling vans and disbursing vaccine around the country, then why are we not asking for volunteers from among the white van man community to help step up disbursement? My concern is that the logistics of the vaccination programme haven't been properly managed. It would not surprise me therefore to find this is allowing all sorts of queue jumping if you know how to go about it. Think the cabinet haven't already been vaccinated? The royals? Hmmmm....if there is slack in the system people will find a way to nip into the queue just like the fleet of foot in the queue for the escalator in the underground....wouldn't surprise me the find footballers and olympians have 'located' a 'surplus' crate of vaccine that 'would have gone off', at some point. Perhaps I'm wrong. Old cynic...

As I understand it the rate limiting step is simply supplies of the vaccine. There is no constraint in the distribution infrastructure. Israel has been hugely successful in its vaccination programme but is running short on supplies. Inevitable really when the whole world needs it. We all just have to be patient and allow the NHS, pharmaceutical companies and Government to do their job. Dare I say it, conspiracy theories just get in the way...

 

[southstandandy]

The Russians are preparing to tamper with every other nations Covid tests and their athletes will be the only ones given a clean bill of heath...allegedly.

No competition so Russia will win every Gold, Silver, and Bronze!

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Just go ahead and do it, vaccinating a few thousand athletes is a drop in the ocean...

Yeah, actually, vaccinating 500 000 teachers would also be a drop in the ocean
Actually, vaccinating 120 000 police officers would also be a drop in the ocean
.......add in other more deserving groups as you see fit
Or definitely just go ahead and use scarce vaccine supplies for people who run fast and jump over things

 

[LamieRobertson]

Mr Piers Morgan and Miss Susanna Reid no less...….

Ah the muppet and the puppet

 

[sydney]

The Olympics should be banned, don't think any major international sporting events should be held where there are a high number of people travelling from different countries due to the high risks, I doubt any country in the world will get its entire population vaccinated and most countries will only get the very sickest and elerly vaccinated. This includes Olympics, Euros, Champions League, cricket tours (unless held in sterile bubble environments).

champions league , rugby world cup , cricket tests , f.a cup matches all over the country whilst 90% of people cant even see their parents ....

dingalingaling ......are we not awake yet ......$$$$$$$$$$

 

[sydney]

This.

With flu we need a new vaccine every year. Covid will be the same. Now we know how to make a covid vaccine it will be easier to make a vaccine for Covid-20. My concern is that the vaccine being deployed now was made for Covid-19 and although the virologists I have heard interviewed are optimistic that our current vaccines will work on the new variants, they don't actually know, yet.

All that said, I remain, as I was last summer in the 'vaccinate the old and vulnerable and let everyone else get back to normal life' camp. The remaining concern is that I suspect it will take much longer to vaccinate the old (and by that I mean over 50s) and immunocompromised than people originally suggested. The caveat, of course, is that we an't return to normal until the vulnerable are all protected (by vaccination).

Oh, and I remain implacably opposed to the dangerous twits who have been arguing that we should just go back to normal before vaccination is in place. Most of those on NSC I have on ignore, because telling people repeatedly that they are advocating genocide of the old and immunocompromised gets a bit boring after a while.

Finally, if the rate limiting step in vaccination is the physical act of a nurse taking a syringe and jabbing a patient, and every available nurse in the country is working flat out jabbing people, it is of course wrong for footballers, pole vaulters and olympic skateboarders to jump the queue. However, if there are warehouses full of vaccine and the rate limiting step is filling vans and disbursing vaccine around the country, then why are we not asking for volunteers from among the white van man community to help step up disbursement? My concern is that the logistics of the vaccination programme haven't been properly managed. It would not surprise me therefore to find this is allowing all sorts of queue jumping if you know how to go about it. Think the cabinet haven't already been vaccinated? The royals? Hmmmm....if there is slack in the system people will find a way to nip into the queue just like the fleet of foot in the queue for the escalator in the underground....wouldn't surprise me the find footballers and olympians have 'located' a 'surplus' crate of vaccine that 'would have gone off', at some point. Perhaps I'm wrong. Old cynic...

lions led by donkeys ....money talks bullshit walks ......such is life, the money frapped on useless tracking apps and non existent ppe could have built a dedicated vaccine development facility .......if that was a priority.

 

[neilbard]

“The most important thing in the Olympic Games is not winning but taking part; the essential thing in life is not conquering but fighting well.” Graham Potter (2021)

 

[beorhthelm]

lions led by donkeys ....money talks bullshit walks ......such is life, the money frapped on useless tracking apps and non existent ppe could have built a dedicated vaccine development facility .......if that was a priority.

one doesnt just build a factory for pharmaceuticals in a couple of months. AstraZeneca have this covered, production capacity for 3 billion dose worldwide.

 

[sydney]

“The most important thing in the Olympic Games is not winning but taking part; the essential thing in life is not conquering but fighting well.” Graham Potter (2021)

zzzzzzzzzzzzz.......lonely....??

 

[sydney]

one doesnt just build a factory for pharmaceuticals in a couple of months. AstraZeneca have this covered, production capacity for 3 billion dose worldwide.

never the less the billions siphoned to private companies over the last 9 months could have helped in a major way , i'm not just talking about UK here ....

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

As I understand it the rate limiting step is simply supplies of the vaccine. There is no constraint in the distribution infrastructure. Israel has been hugely successful in its vaccination programme but is running short on supplies. Inevitable really when the whole world needs it. We all just have to be patient and allow the NHS, pharmaceutical companies and Government to do their job. Dare I say it, conspiracy theories just get in the way...

That's what I heard too, but I thought HMG were saying there are millions of doses ordered....sorry, I've been a mug again, haven't I? Doses ordered does not mean doses available. Like when the education minister reassured me today on the radio by saying that every kid who needs a laptop and 4G will get it, only for the opposition spokesman to point out there are 1.5 million kids in this category and nothing actually happening. I was listening to pariamentary questions this afternoon on R5 and it was cut short by the presenter who explained there wasn't any point broadcasting any more because the minister was not answering the questions posed by the opposition. Getting to the bottom of things with all this spin and bollocks is quite difficult. I don't have any conspiracy theories; I'd just like to know the facts...

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

That's what I heard too, but I thought HMG were saying there are millions of doses ordered....sorry, I've been a mug again, haven't I? Doses ordered does not mean doses available. Like when the education minister reassured me today on the radio by saying that every kid who needs a laptop and 4G will get it, only for the opposition spokesman to point out there are 1.5 million kids in this category and nothing actually happening. I was listening to pariamentary questions this afternoon on R5 and it was cut short by the presenter who explained there wasn't any point broadcasting any more because the minister was not answering the questions posed by the opposition. Getting to the bottom of things with all this spin and bollocks is quite difficult. I don't have any conspiracy theories; I'd just like to know the facts...

The facts are 1.3 million vaccines administered as of yesterday and daily updates on numbers going forwards.
All countries have logistical problems of some sort and everyone wants their jab yesterday (even bleeding athletes !)

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/health-55553072

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55529240

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

The facts are 1.3 million vaccines administered as of yesterday and daily updates on numbers going forwards.
All countries have logistical problems of some sort and everyone wants their jab yesterday (even bleeding athletes !)

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/health-55553072

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55529240

Really? That's great! Cheered me up

 

[Brok]

Have the tabloid newspapers managed to secure a few thousand vaccines that they can give as competition prizes yet?

 

[dejavuatbtn]

That's what I heard too, but I thought HMG were saying there are millions of doses ordered....sorry, I've been a mug again, haven't I? Doses ordered does not mean doses available. Like when the education minister reassured me today on the radio by saying that every kid who needs a laptop and 4G will get it, only for the opposition spokesman to point out there are 1.5 million kids in this category and nothing actually happening. I was listening to pariamentary questions this afternoon on R5 and it was cut short by the presenter who explained there wasn't any point broadcasting any more because the minister was not answering the questions posed by the opposition. Getting to the bottom of things with all this spin and bollocks is quite difficult. I don't have any conspiracy theories; I'd just like to know the facts...

Maybe the solution, before Rashford stood up, was to starve them all to avoid having to give out too many laptops.