[News] 2030 and Electric cars.

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Just got a Tesla. A couple of weeks back charged at home overnight, drove to Birmingham, had meeting, plugged into a supercharger, had a coffee, back to car added 60% to the battery in about 25 mins drove home. Cost of the recharge? £12.80 still had about 30% battery when I returned to Brighton. I've had diesel or petrol cars Mercs/BMW my whole life this thing knocks spots off those in almost every way. Cheaper to run, faster, the acceleration takes some getting used to, scary quick , more fun to drive, less tax what's not too like? I got it purely to save the tax but I'm a total convert...,

You just need to treat it like your phone, charge it overnight and even if you travel regularly like I do it saves a fortune and is much much easier. Early days but cannot fault the thing so far...

Drove my mate's electric Jag a while back.



We will go through a time when costs will be prohibitive, and some people will be forced off the road for a bit, perhaps.

How many people owned a car in the 60s?

So be it

 

[Bodian]

We've now got a fleet of BMWi3s at work. They are incredibly nippy, with a G-force acceleration - but take a bit of getting used to. I don't like not having a handbrake, and coming up behind bikes and walkers scares them!

However, it is dependent on the person using it the day before actually plugging it in properly overnight for the 13-hour trickle charge. Otherwise - you can't go anywhere. We do have some superchargers at our main office, which do something like 80% in 20 minutes. Charging two cars up in this way has shown to use quite a bit more power than the whole office of 70 people in an entire day. 170 mile nominal distance - but I went out on a really wet day a few weeks back. I had the lights on all day, heating on, and radio. I drove around 50 miles, and came back with only 60 miles left on the battery. I went up one steep hill, and it used 8 miles worth in 1.5 miles.

So, you never feel quite 'safe' in them - as you know that unless you get home on the one charge, you're stuck - as there's nowhere else in 20 miles or so to charge up.

 

[LamieRobertson]

Just got a Tesla. A couple of weeks back charged at home overnight, drove to Birmingham, had meeting, plugged into a supercharger, had a coffee, back to car added 60% to the battery in about 25 mins drove home. Cost of the recharge? £12.80 still had about 30% battery when I returned to Brighton. I've had diesel or petrol cars Mercs/BMW my whole life this thing knocks spots off those in almost every way. Cheaper to run, faster, the acceleration takes some getting used to, scary quick , more fun to drive, less tax what's not too like? I got it purely to save the tax but I'm a total convert...,

You just need to treat it like your phone, charge it overnight and even if you travel regularly like I do it saves a fortune and is much much easier. Early days but cannot fault the thing so far...

Mind me asking how much it cost?

 

[LamieRobertson]

Drove my mate's electric Jag a while back.



We will go through a time when costs will be prohibitive, and some people will be forced off the road for a bit, perhaps.

How many people owned a car in the 60s?

So be it

Being forced off the road for it isn’t really acceptable though (given we know what demographic will be hit)...although i understand u can still drive a petrol/diesel car after 2030....and why an earth push this right now ...just trying to get something else on the front pages

In the meantime I’ll save up for a very long extension lead

 

[Gazwag]

Surely the way forward would be to make every road like a scalextric track, no recharging needed and really safe as no overtaking would be possible.

 

[Gazwag]

Mind me asking how much it cost?

I think they start at about £75k

 

[Leekbrookgull]

Don't worry. Nobody will be digging up anything in Leek any time soon.

And the perpetual motion machine is just around he corner. Probably with a lizard in the cockpit. Swanny said

That,s my point Cable and Wireless ripped up Stoke,Macclesfield,Stockport and as you others areas in your region,for what ? Just build a low cost self charging vehicle. Please.

 

[LamieRobertson]

I think they start at about £75k

Gawd blimey

 

[GT49er]

Surely the way forward would be to make every road like a scalextric track, no recharging needed and really safe as no overtaking would be possible.

Common user tram tracks then? Should be a winner ...........

 

[Happy Exile]

We went electric this time last year with an entry level used Nissan Leaf and wouldn't go back now. The monthly payments for the car purchase and charging are less than we paid on fuel per month before alone and for nipping around town it's perfect (and as others have said acceleration is fun). Fewer moving parts means less to go wrong too. While longer trips need charging stops planned in being a small car and "old" battery technology now, we've never queued for a charger and by the time you've been to the loo and got a coffee it's done enough. Pre-lockdown we'd do monthly family visits of a 400 miles round trip and it never cost us more than £24 in charging for the whole trip and never took us more than an hour longer each way compared to diesel. Bigger batteries and a charging network that caters for mass usage will change all that anyway. Appreciate not everyone has the means to get an electric car yet and I'm not going to preach to convert anyone but my personal experience is realising any anxiety I had pre-switch was unfounded.

 

[sydney]

Alright 250 yds.

surely electrical charging bays at garages would be more sensible , along with car owners having them installed at their houses .........quite a few of my mates have teslas , they are wicked bits of kit and fast as ****.

 

[Icy Gull]

I think they start at about £75k

I am guessing here but the equivalent petrol car is likely to be no more than 55k. I think I can live with the inconvenience and expense of knowing I am not going to be worrying about running out of charge whilst having to pay for petrol. You’d have to do mega miles before you racked up enough to cover the 20k price differential.

Like the idea of electric cars but I also like the sound of a sporty engine over a whirring big feck off sewing machine sound.

Won’t be buying one anytime soon as Alfa don’t have an electric car

 

[Seasider78]

It’s a nice idea and ambition but cannot see this being delivered in reality. The unit price of a electric vehicle differential alone is huge even with government grants that are already being reduced as the market increases. It’s simply not affordable for many and the prices would need to drop dramatically to see widespread take up.

Even if prices come down the logistics of this across the road network are enormous and there is no obvious solution to home charging at volume for those who do not own a drive or garage. What is it £1.3bn in charging points across the whole of the country not going to scratch the surface with that are they.

 

[mwrpoole]

Gawd blimey

They are coming down in price. On the Tesla website they have their ‘model 3’ starting at £41k.

 

[beorhthelm]

Imagine living in a block of flats in a large city ( not all flats have underground car parks).....or terraced housing where you have to park 1/2 mile away......you going to need a long extension lead....

not really a problem, along with charging mid journey. in the future the private ownership of cars will be preserve of middle classes with a nice semi-detached, wealthy with a car park allocation in city. everyone else will be served by a fleet of shared/corporate owned vehicles, either pooled in town or autonomous to to arrive in time for your commute.

its sad that the hybrid is not included in the strategy, slotting into the existing infrastructure while also addressing environment concerns.

 

[JJ McClure]

Will certainly consider an ev next time round but the prices will need to have come down as they seem prohibitively expensive at the moment.
Petrol Corsa range is £16k to £26k, Corse-e range starts at £30k
Kia Niro petrol is £24k to £32k, e-Niro is £32k to £40k
that needs sorting before most folk can afford to actually buy one.

 

[Gazwag]

They are coming down in price. On the Tesla website they have their ‘model 3’ starting at £41k.

Yes you are right, I was looking at the model S

 

[Gazwag]

Will certainly consider an ev next time round but the prices will need to have come down as they seem prohibitively expensive at the moment.
Petrol Corsa range is £16k to £26k, Corse-e range starts at £30k
Kia Niro petrol is £24k to £32k, e-Niro is £32k to £40k
that needs sorting before most folk can afford to actually buy one.

Mazda's new one start at £25k - don't like the look of it though

 

[JJ McClure]

Mazda's new one start at £25k - don't like the look of it though

Doesn't look too bad, but only 125 mile range is pretty rubbish.

 

[mwrpoole]

Yes you are right, I was looking at the model S

The model S does look very nice!