[Albion] STH & 1901 Ballot Groups for games in 2020/21 Season

[BNthree]

To confuse things I didn't donate any money from last season but still need to pay until 1st Nov so it's not penalising those that did donate.

It's all about having paid enough to cover the pro-rata cost of 12 tickets in your price band.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

To confuse things I didn't donate any money from last season but still need to pay until 1st Nov so it's not penalising those that did donate.

It's all about having paid enough to cover the pro-rata cost of 12 tickets in your price band.

I was explicitly told that the reason I was paying 8 direct debits for this season and not 6 was that I'd donated last season's refund back to the club.

I genuinely do not understand this.

 

[BNthree]

I genuinely do not understand this.

Neither do I! I just trust the club enough to get it right. Let's hope they do so..

 

[WilburySeagull]

To confuse things I didn't donate any money from last season but still need to pay until 1st Nov so it's not penalising those that did donate.

It's all about having paid enough to cover the pro-rata cost of 12 tickets in your price band.

It must be related to the donations because otherwise my wife and I have paid exactly the same on the same dates from the same bank account.

 

[Beach Hut]

I'm still looking for the "I don't want to go at all this season" button. I've read about all these ballots and groups and the like but personally I just don't want to go.
Football is meeting like minded people who I see 19 times a year at the Amex, talk for an hour with a few beers and watch a match. It's a social event. Going alone and sitting 4 seats from an unknown person is not for me. Am I the only person who has no idea of the contact details of the 10 people I meet at the ground or the 5 on the coach?
Talking to a Bournemouth ST holder, they are getting refunds after each match if the match is BCD.
And as for payments, I paid up front months ago for a ST I don't intend using for health reasons this season.

There is no opt out unless you can medically prove it. Whilst you have a way football works for you meeting mates etc (which to be fair most of us do) the club just want people back when permitted even if lower numbers.

 

[Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo]

I was explicitly told that the reason I was paying 8 direct debits for this season and not 6 was that I'd donated last season's refund back to the club.

I genuinely do not understand this.

The club appear to be making sure everyone starts with the same pot of money towards tickets for whenever fans are allowed to attend again. It appears to be based on the equivalent of 12 games so it will depend on how much you’ve already paid/payment breaks and if you previously donated etc.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

The club appear to be making sure everyone starts with the same pot of money towards tickets for whenever fans are allowed to attend again. It appears to be based on the equivalent of 12 games so it will depend on how much you’ve already paid/payment breaks and if you previously donated etc.

It makes no sense.

I've had no payment breaks.

I gifted the club last season's refund.

I will pay 8 payments for this season.

If I'd not let the club keep last season's refund, I'd be making 6 payments this season.

Why the 2 extra payments ?

This season is this season. Last season is last season. What happened to last season's refund should have no impact on this season.

I'm totally at a loss as to why this is.

 

[Is it PotG?]

It makes no sense.

I've had no payment breaks.

I gifted the club last season's refund.

I will pay 8 payments for this season.

If I'd not let the club keep last season's refund, I'd be making 6 payments this season.

Why the 2 extra payments ?

This season is this season. Last season is last season. What happened to last season's refund should have no impact on this season.

I'm totally at a loss as to why this is.

Have you emailed the club?

 

[WilburySeagull]

It makes no sense.

I've had no payment breaks.

I gifted the club last season's refund.

I will pay 8 payments for this season.

If I'd not let the club keep last season's refund, I'd be making 6 payments this season.

Why the 2 extra payments ?

This season is this season. Last season is last season. What happened to last season's refund should have no impact on this season.

I'm totally at a loss as to why this is.

This

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Have you emailed the club?

I have phoned them.

They said the reason I was making 8 payments was because I had donated last season's refund back to them.

If I hadn't done this I'd be making 6 payments this year.

Totally bizarre.

 

[Gazwag]

I have phoned them.

They said the reason I was making 8 payments was because I had donated last season's refund back to them.

If I hadn't done this I'd be making 6 payments this year.

Totally bizarre.

Is it because your liability for 2020/21 is higher. (on made up figures)

You donated £100 so your liability for 2020/21 is £400
I didn't so my liability for 2020/21 is £400 - £100 = £300

I pay 6 x £50 = £300
You pay 8 x £50 = £400

just guessing how the logic might work

 

[Giraffe]

I think the bigger question is why do they think they can sit on six months money (or more) with little hope of that being utilised this season. I'm struggling to think of another business where they would do this and not be slaughtered.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Is it because your liability for 2020/21 is higher. (on made up figures)

You donated £100 so your liability for 2020/21 is £400
I didn't so my liability for 2020/21 is £400 - £100 = £300

I pay 6 x £50 = £300
You pay 8 x £50 = £400

just guessing how the logic might work

No. I donated last season's refund. This season's liability remains the same as if I hadn't donated the refund.

 

[nickbrighton]

I think it is that those that didn't donate or get a refund, had money credited to this seasons cost meaning that those sth had money already in the kitty. Those that did donate started with zero, and therefore have more to pay to get to the same point . I think everyone will pay the same amount overall for equivalent tickets. No one is being penalised for donating, just those that didnt have had the money they didnt donate taken of this season cost.

Example : (figures made up) Cost of tickets this season £500, donated £100, balance this season £500
donated £0 , Balance this season £400 (£100 credited from last season) total £500

 

[Al Bion]

I don't understand either because I thought at the end of last season everyone had to either donate their ticket refunds (to the club or charity) or they received a refund to their bank account so surely everyone's account balance was zero going into this new season?

My friend I sit next to received a refund for last season's tickets and his email said he'd now made six payments and no more would be taken. I donated my money, rather than receive a refund myself, and I have to pay to November.

I understand that it's the size of the pot of money that counts but not why mine is made up of eight payments and other people's only six?

It seems to be only people that donated their money who have to make eight payments so was some balance left in 'the pot' for those that had refunds? Can anyone confirm? I just don't understand but trust the club to get it right!

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

I think it is that those that didn't donate or get a refund, had money credited to this seasons cost meaning that those sth had money already in the kitty. Those that did donate started with zero, and therefore have more to pay to get to the same point . I think everyone will pay the same amount overall for equivalent tickets. No one is being penalised for donating, just those that didnt have had the money they didnt donate taken of this season cost.

Example : (figures made up) Cost of tickets this season £500, donated £100, balance this season £500
donated £0 , Balance this season £400 (£100 credited from last season) total £500

So you are saying that people who took the refund had some of it as a credit towards this season ? ie they were not fully refunded by bank transfer and some was kept back as credit for this year ?

I did not know that. It would explain things, but I'm not totally sure it is right.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I don't understand either because I thought at the end of last season everyone had to either donate their ticket refunds (to the club or charity) or they received a refund to their bank account so surely everyone's account balance was zero going into this new season?

My friend I sit next to received a refund for last season's tickets and his email said he'd now made six payments and no more would be taken. I donated my money, rather than receive a refund myself, and I have to pay to November.

I understand that it's the size of the pot of money that counts but not why mine is made up of eight payments and other people's only six?

It seems to be only people that donated their money who have to make eight payments so was some balance left in 'the pot' for those that had refunds? Can anyone confirm? I just don't understand but trust the club to get it right!

Have you both paid exactly the same amount in direct debit ie the monthly payment? It's just a thought but maybe his payment was higher than yours?

 

[nickbrighton]

So you are saying that people who took the refund had some of it as a credit towards this season ? ie they were not fully refunded by bank transfer and some was kept back as credit for this year ?

I did not know that. It would explain things, but I'm not totally sure it is right.

I don't know the individual circumstances, but i think at the time the options were, refund, donate to club or albion as one, or have the amount credited to this season. If I had donated, and hubby hadnt, then his DD would have stopped befoer mine, which seems to be the scenario here

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

I don't know the individual circumstances, but i think at the time the options were, refund, donate to club or albion as one, or have the amount credited to this season. If I had donated, and hubby hadnt, then his DD would have stopped befoer mine, which seems to be the scenario here

OK, that could be it.


Just a shame that there was so much initial noise about Season Ticket direct debits finishing on September 1st and how there would only be 6 payments this season.

 

[Napper]

I think the bigger question is why do they think they can sit on six months money (or more) with little hope of that being utilised this season. I'm struggling to think of another business where they would do this and not be slaughtered.

footballs different. Most of us are fans for life. It's just a pause. Our support isnt going to go. We'll be back and it will all work out.