[News] NHS CV19 tracing app.

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WATFORD zero

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I wonder how this actually works?

For instance I was in the supermarket at lunch, for around 15-minutes. During that time I passed a few of the same people several times. I was probably within 2 m of them for a matter of seconds, albeit spread over maybe 15 mins. I wonder if I would get a notification if one of them tested positive?

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So 15 mins in someone's company under 2M
or 30 mins in someone's company 2-4M away

(or combination)
 


Lincoln Imp

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Sorry if this has been mentioned but a woman on the radio this morning was talking about driving her car in a congested city street and finding herself stopping alongside a bus. If a passenger on her side of the bus was shown to have CV then her presence would be flagged up and she would have to go into isolation for however many days it took to get a test. Is that right?
 






WATFORD zero

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Sorry if this has been mentioned but a woman on the radio this morning was talking about driving her car in a congested city street and finding herself stopping alongside a bus. If a passenger on her side of the bus was shown to have CV then her presence would be flagged up and she would have to go into isolation for however many days it took to get a test. Is that right?

I believe not - see above ^

*edit* And below now too :D
 
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WATFORD zero

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That's a useful explanation, thank you for digging it out.

One other question that sprang to mind is at what point do I get sent an alert (and therefore have to isolate)? Is it when another person reports that they've tested positive for coronavirus, or merely that they're displaying symptoms?

I believe that when they get a positive test, they enter a code to the app, and that will trigger the alerts (just from listening to Radio 5 this morning). They were interviewing some doctor in technology and I wish I could remember her name because she said she had a Q&A on her website which answered a lot of these and offered very straightforward explanations.

*edit*

And then admitted she hadn't downloaded it as herself as her phone was too old and she had been too busy to upgrade it :lolol:
 




Wardy's twin

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We are trying to be Covid secure in our business. We have gone full on face masks for anyone not seated at a table, we’ve already had 2 customers that have said they are exempt from wearing masks, youngsters not the usual complainers, but, they had left their exemption credentials at home, ( honest)

I turned them both away , they weren’t happy, but, what am I meant to do?

You have no choice for the safety of other customers. Always a few that think they are somehow above the rules

Lots of shops are ignoring enforcing facemasks so he did have a choice but morally he took the right one.
 




Poojah

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Might have been asked before,but what if you use a VPN ?

I'm no expert on this so I stand to be corrected, but I believe the app uses GPS location data rather than IP based information, so the app will not be fooled into thinking you're somewhere you are not. I've had this issue before trying to watch an England game on my phone while on holiday using the BBC app. My IP address told them that I was back in dear old Blighty, only for location services to point out that I was in fact very much sat on a beach in the Caribbean.
 




Poojah

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I believe that when they get a positive test, they enter a code to the app, and that will trigger the alerts (just from listening to Radio 5 this morning). They were interviewing some doctor in technology and I wish I could remember her name because she said she had a Q&A on her website which answered a lot of these and offered very straightforward explanations.

*edit*

And then admitted she hadn't downloaded it as herself as her phone was too old and she had been too busy to upgrade it :lolol:

Ah, that's good if so. It had concerned me slightly that you'd get the odd muppet reporting themselves for shíts and giggles, I mean it's a good way to wind all yer mates up, innit.

I know that's not most of us, but I know of individuals who would find great humour in such japery.
 


Peter Grummit

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Oct 13, 2004
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Yes, just downloaded it.
Community over libertarian, individualistic Dominic Cummings types.
The problem with that binary analysis is that so many people won't use it precisely because they don't trust a Government run by an unelected megalomaniac not to use their location and health status for other purposes.

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lawros left foot

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Jun 11, 2011
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Not really about the app, but, connected to the ramping up of the precautions.
My daughter was on the Worthing to Hayward’s Heath this afternoon when 2 passengers were caught without face coverings by 2 plain clothes Police, and fined £200.

Cue the” It’s becoming a Police state “ posts.
 






Birdie Boy

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I've just downloaded the app, tried to check in to the venue that I'm at but their qr code is not an NHS one, so doesn't work. How many pubs or restaurants are going to have the specific NHS qr code? This has failed in the first minute of me using the app!
 


SeagullinExile

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Yes. Had to put it in my pub. So a bit rude not to sign up myself.
 


Notters

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Oct 20, 2003
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Comes down to the same ol' thing: responsible members of society trying to do what's best for people they know and people they don't know vs selfish covidiots convinced of their own immortality and furk everybody else :shrug:

I'm not sure distrust in the sociopathic, crooked, extreme government makes you an idiot. I'm undecided. I would also add, that I've not spent 15 minutes in close proximity to anyone other than my family for a very long time and don't really intend to. I've been to a couple of pubs and restaurants which have been very well distanced (as everwhere should be) - where will the app really be useful?
 




surrey jim

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Aug 2, 2005
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Tried to download this morning. The app store says my phone is compatible [Iphone 6] yet when try to download it says I require IoS 13.5 or later. I checked in the Iphone update area and it shows my phone as 12.4.8 which is the latest IoS I can get

I've never thought of my phone as being old, I use as payment card, bus ticket, dual verify to log into my work laptops, have used for boarding passes for flights. Surely the track and trace shouldn't need more processing power than those other apps

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SeagullinExile

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I've just downloaded the app, tried to check in to the venue that I'm at but their qr code is not an NHS one, so doesn't work. How many pubs or restaurants are going to have the specific NHS qr code? This has failed in the first minute of me using the app!

As a business you have to join via the NHS website. You give all the business details, and within 30 minutes they email a bespoke QR poster which you print off and display at the entrance.

Maybe the venue you visited hasn't registered yet.
 


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