Where is the anti lockdown campaign?

[CheeseRolls]

I was fundamentally opposed to the original, and I'm vehemently opposed to the 3 week extension. Where is the campaign to voice the objections of sensible free-thinking people to these draconian regulations? Or is the entire population meekly following along like a flock of scared sheep? If this is allowed to continue unopposed I can see the scenario in a few years time when there's flu virus and the government says "let's have another lockdown. It's easy. No one objected last time". What should have happened was that the elderly and at-risk should have self-isolated and the rest of us continued with our lives as close to normal as is possible. Instead of that the entire population is being virtually imprisoned, and not a bleat of complaint from anyone.

450 Romanians being flown in and welcomed into the country with open arms by the government and they will have far more freedom than you - Suck it up.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

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Look like a great bunch of lads.

Whether you see right wing campaigners like these, or Brexiteers, or Lads For England or whatever they’re called....it’s never the more stylish and good looking people is it? Strange.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

I was fundamentally opposed to the original, and I'm vehemently opposed to the 3 week extension. Where is the campaign to voice the objections of sensible free-thinking people to these draconian regulations? Or is the entire population meekly following along like a flock of scared sheep? If this is allowed to continue unopposed I can see the scenario in a few years time when there's flu virus and the government says "let's have another lockdown. It's easy. No one objected last time". What should have happened was that the elderly and at-risk should have self-isolated and the rest of us continued with our lives as close to normal as is possible. Instead of that the entire population is being virtually imprisoned, and not a bleat of complaint from anyone.

As someone with elderly sick parents I agree with the lockdown. Equally as someone that works for a company that has so far lost 5 staff to the virus I agree with the lockdown. As someone with asthma I agree with the lockdown. As someone that believes people - all people - should be protected from the virus I agree with the lockdown. Just wish Cvnt5 would stop breaking it because they think it's above them. Are you one of them ?

 

[RossyG]

Whether you see right wing campaigners like these, or Brexiteers, or Lads For England or whatever they’re called....it’s never the more stylish and good looking people is it? Strange.

I’ve noticed the same with feminists.

 

[Bakero]

Whether you see right wing campaigners like these, or Brexiteers, or Lads For England or whatever they’re called....it’s never the more stylish and good looking people is it? Strange.

Hugo Boss must be turning in his grave.

 

[kingcole]

Our original plan was herd immunity. It became clear quite fast that this route would overwhelm the NHS so we went into lockdown, to push back the peak, flatten the curve and protect the NHS so it could prepare for a spike.

We are now at the stage where numbers are falling, quite quickly. The NHS has done a great job, especially with the speed the new hospitals got built and there is capacity. 2 weeks ago I was proud to see how our country could build a 4000 bed hospital in a matter of days. Today it has a couple of dozen patients.

We MUST give consideration to the economy. The V shaped recovery will be a pipe dream if we don’t act soon. Yes, there will be a recovery when lockdown if lifted, but the failed businesses cannot recovery. The lockdown must end before they fail. The excellent measures put in place will ensure many won’t fail that otherwise would have but if this continues, more will fail and more will die from symptoms not directly related to Covid-19.

Maybe today isn’t the day to announce an easing, but it sure ain’t another 3 weeks before a new annoucement.

Get the kids back to school a week Monday - make it voluntary. The exam years will already be gone and with those who don’t wish to attend, social distancing will be easier (not saying it will be easy, just easier).

The schools mean non essential businesses can return. We have all learnt a lot about social distancing these past weeks and we can use these new skills in arenas other than Tesco.

If you need to buy a car, some plants for the garden or a new pair of undies, you should be able to visit a shop/showroom/garden centre in the same responsible way that we buy our groceries.

By making this happen from a week Monday we have only lost 2 weeks in addition to the 2 week Easter holiday. Kids will catch up, businesses will have hope and mental illness will be averted.

We can then monitor the effectiveness and the numbers with a view to opening restaurants, bars and easing the restrictive travel guidance later in May.

I fear mass gatherings like football may need to wait a lot longer.

Through all of this the old and the vulnerable must continue to stay isolated until the Risk recedes further. Not only will this method offer hope, save business and improve the mental health and save 10’s of 1000’s of jobs, it will mean the fittest get some exposure which is turn will go some way to providing the herd immunity. Although a vaccine for immunity is of course the goal, this may take months, possibly years and even then may not work.

Edit. Even the dovish NY Governor is currently talking about plans to open some businesses, and they are behind us.

 

[wehatepalace]

I agree with the lockdown, but after six weeks I will have had enough, after six weeks If not before many many businesses will be on the brink, many people will be in so much debt they will never be able to get out off.
They can’t keep the world locked up forever, the virus will still be there when we come out of this, a vaccine is 12 months away, most people couldn’t survive 12 months of not earning, bills still need to be paid, people still need to eat, and people’s mental health will be affected.
I’m not sure I would support a campaign but I can certainly see the need for some kind of plan to get people back to work and try and get the economy moving again.

 

[wehatepalace]

Our original plan was herd immunity. It became clear quite fast that this route would overwhelm the NHS so we went into lockdown, to push back the peak, flatten the curve and protect the NHS so it could prepare for a spike.

We are now at the stage where numbers are falling, quite quickly. The NHS has done a great job, especially with the speed the new hospitals got built and there is capacity. 2 weeks ago I was proud to see how our country could build a 4000 bed hospital in a matter of days. Today it has a couple of dozen patients.

We MUST give consideration to the economy. The V shaped recovery will be a pipe dream if we don’t act soon. Yes, there will be a recovery when lockdown if lifted, but the failed businesses cannot recovery. The lockdown must end before they fail. The excellent measures put in place will ensure many won’t fail that otherwise would have but if this continues, more will fail and more will die from symptoms not directly related to Covid-19.

Maybe today isn’t the day to announce an easing, but it sure ain’t another 3 weeks before a new annoucement.

Get the kids back to school a week Monday - make it voluntary. The exam years will already be gone and with those who don’t wish to attend, social distancing will be easier (not saying it will be easy, just easier).

The schools mean non essential businesses can return. We have all learnt a lot about social distancing these past weeks and we can use these new skills in arenas other than Tesco.

If you need to buy a car, some plants for the garden or a new pair of undies, you should be able to visit a shop in the same responsible way that we buy our groceries.

By making this happen from a week Monday we have only lost 2 weeks in addition to the 2 week Easter holiday. Kids will catch up, businesses will have hope and mental illness will be averted.

We can then monitor the effectiveness and the numbers with a view to opening restaurants, bar and easing the restrictive travel guidance later in May.

I fear mass gatherings like football may need to wait a lot longer.

Through all of this the old and the vulnerable must continue to stay isolated until the Risk recedes further. Not only will this method offer hope, save business and improve the mental health and save 10’s of 1000’s of jobs, it will mean the fittest get some exposure which is turn will go some way to providing the herd immunity. Although a vaccine for immunity is of course the goal, this may take months, possibly years and even then may not work.

Edit. Even the dovish NY Governor is currently talking about plans to open some businesses, and they are behind us.

This is 100% what I was trying to say, but you’ve put it far more eloquently that I have, I doff my cap sir.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Through all of this the old and the vulnerable must continue to stay isolated until the Risk recedes further. Not only will this method offer hope, save business and improve the mental health and save 10’s of 1000’s of jobs, it will mean the fittest get some exposure which is turn will go some way to providing the herd immunity. Although a vaccine for immunity is of course the goal, this may take months, possibly years and even then may not work.

Even the fittest have been dying Ask TfL or the NHS about the dangers of exposure for EVERYONE.

 

[kingcole]

Even the fittest have been dying Ask TfL or the NHS about the dangers of exposure for EVERYONE.

No, just no. We have heard of EVERYONE of those deaths because they are selling headlines. Each of them is tragic and sad, but the numbers of younger folk without other conditions is tiny. It’s count on your fingers and toes tiny compared to what could well be a figure of millions infected.

There will be more avoidable deaths from those not visiting a doctor with a lump, folk drinking too much or taking drugs or topping themselves in one month that there will be of young people for the duration of this whole crisis.

We can’t save everyone all the time. It’s about saving as many as we can and not moving soon could mean 100,000 teenagers now has his following 60 years in poverty and poor health, along with his kids and grand kids as opposed to one tragic death of another teenager from Covid-19

 

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

Some of the 'let's end the lockdown soon' comments on this thread really worry me - I fear a huge spike if the end of the lockdown is rushed.

'Numbers are falling' - another 861 deaths announced today.

Patience is required (No, I'm not furloughed and being paid 80% of my salary by the govt. to sit on my arse, I run my own business which is tough at the moment.)

 

[Westdene Seagull]

No, just no. We have heard of EVERYONE of those deaths because they are selling headlines. Each of them is tragic and sad, but the numbers of younger folk without other conditions is tiny. It’s count on your fingers and toes tiny compared to what could well be a figure of millions infected.

There will be more avoidable deaths from those not visiting a doctor with a lump, folk drinking too much or taking drugs or topping themselves in one month that there will be of young people for the duration of this whole crisis.

We can’t save everyone all the time. It’s about saving as many as we can and not moving soon could mean 100,000 teenagers now has his following 60 years in poverty and poor health, along with his kids and grand kids as opposed to one tragic death of another teenager from Covid-19

Well I'm glad you're willing to sacrifice the lives people for the sake of removing lockdown a few weeks earlier. I doubt you'll feel the same if it was someone in your family, your partner or even one of your children that died because some people don't want to protect the greater good.

EDIT - and NY have just announced an extension of lockdown until mid-May ..... clearly wasn't listening to you !

 

[BN41Albion]

Well I'm glad you're willing to sacrifice the lives people for the sake of removing lockdown a few weeks earlier. I doubt you'll feel the same if it was someone in your family, your partner or even one of your children that died because some people don't want to protect the greater good.

EDIT - and NY have just announced an extension of lockdown until mid-May ..... clearly wasn't listening to you !

This. It's 3 more weeks, ffs.

 

[BN41Albion]

Our original plan was herd immunity. It became clear quite fast that this route would overwhelm the NHS so we went into lockdown, to push back the peak, flatten the curve and protect the NHS so it could prepare for a spike.

We are now at the stage where numbers are falling, quite quickly. The NHS has done a great job, especially with the speed the new hospitals got built and there is capacity. 2 weeks ago I was proud to see how our country could build a 4000 bed hospital in a matter of days. Today it has a couple of dozen patients.

We MUST give consideration to the economy. The V shaped recovery will be a pipe dream if we don’t act soon. Yes, there will be a recovery when lockdown if lifted, but the failed businesses cannot recovery. The lockdown must end before they fail. The excellent measures put in place will ensure many won’t fail that otherwise would have but if this continues, more will fail and more will die from symptoms not directly related to Covid-19.

Maybe today isn’t the day to announce an easing, but it sure ain’t another 3 weeks before a new annoucement.

Get the kids back to school a week Monday - make it voluntary. The exam years will already be gone and with those who don’t wish to attend, social distancing will be easier (not saying it will be easy, just easier).

The schools mean non essential businesses can return. We have all learnt a lot about social distancing these past weeks and we can use these new skills in arenas other than Tesco.

If you need to buy a car, some plants for the garden or a new pair of undies, you should be able to visit a shop/showroom/garden centre in the same responsible way that we buy our groceries.

By making this happen from a week Monday we have only lost 2 weeks in addition to the 2 week Easter holiday. Kids will catch up, businesses will have hope and mental illness will be averted.

We can then monitor the effectiveness and the numbers with a view to opening restaurants, bars and easing the restrictive travel guidance later in May.

I fear mass gatherings like football may need to wait a lot longer.

Through all of this the old and the vulnerable must continue to stay isolated until the Risk recedes further. Not only will this method offer hope, save business and improve the mental health and save 10’s of 1000’s of jobs, it will mean the fittest get some exposure which is turn will go some way to providing the herd immunity. Although a vaccine for immunity is of course the goal, this may take months, possibly years and even then may not work.

Edit. Even the dovish NY Governor is currently talking about plans to open some businesses, and they are behind us.

What a waste of your time writing all that, eh.

What makes you such an expert on all these matters?

 

[Acker79]

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Look like a great bunch of lads.

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[MJsGhost]

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Look like a great bunch of lads.

I've seen something like that somewhere before...

 

[Beach Hut]

I was fundamentally opposed to the original, and I'm vehemently opposed to the 3 week extension. Where is the campaign to voice the objections of sensible free-thinking people to these draconian regulations? Or is the entire population meekly following along like a flock of scared sheep? If this is allowed to continue unopposed I can see the scenario in a few years time when there's flu virus and the government says "let's have another lockdown. It's easy. No one objected last time". What should have happened was that the elderly and at-risk should have self-isolated and the rest of us continued with our lives as close to normal as is possible. Instead of that the entire population is being virtually imprisoned, and not a bleat of complaint from anyone.

Start it yourself or just ignore the lockdown, however, if you catch the virus don't expect sympathy from anyone

 

[MJsGhost]

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Well that's spooky in more ways than one!

 

[Eeyore]

I was fundamentally opposed to the original, and I'm vehemently opposed to the 3 week extension. Where is the campaign to voice the objections of sensible free-thinking people to these draconian regulations? Or is the entire population meekly following along like a flock of scared sheep? If this is allowed to continue unopposed I can see the scenario in a few years time when there's flu virus and the government says "let's have another lockdown. It's easy. No one objected last time". What should have happened was that the elderly and at-risk should have self-isolated and the rest of us continued with our lives as close to normal as is possible. Instead of that the entire population is being virtually imprisoned, and not a bleat of complaint from anyone.

'I was fundamentally opposed to the original...'

Even though the NHS would have been overwhelmed. Best not take part in the applause then...

Where is the campaign to voice the objections of sensible free-thinking people to these draconian regulations?

It may be that they agree with the decision.

What should have happened was that the elderly and at-risk should have self-isolated and the rest of us continued with our lives as close to normal as is possible

That was the original idea. But then the facts came along.

If this is allowed to continue unopposed I can see the scenario in a few years time when there's flu virus and the government says "let's have another lockdown''

You think the government want to trash the economy on a regular basis ?

You are Dominic Cummings and I claim my prize.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Start it yourself or just ignore the lockdown, however, if you catch the virus don't expect sympathy from anyone

You'd think if he felt so strongly about it he would be out on the street campaigning. Yes, he'd get a few fines but surely that would be worth it. In reality he's just a rebel without some balls.