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seagullwedgee

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Aug 9, 2005
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Oh dear. Apparently there are over 300 British tourists who were in this Tenerife resort last week, not surprising for half term holiday, who have now flown home, feeling no symptoms yet, and since returned to school and work. This has the potential now to truly explode in the UK in the next 10 days or so.
 




pb21

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Apr 23, 2010
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Oh dear. Apparently there are over 300 British tourists who were in this Tenerife resort last week, not surprising for half term holiday, who have now flown home, feeling no symptoms yet, and since returned to school and work. This has the potential now to truly explode in the UK in the next 10 days or so.

Depends when the Italian who has it arrived.
 




vegster

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May 5, 2008
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Oh dear. Apparently there are over 300 British tourists who were in this Tenerife resort last week, not surprising for half term holiday, who have now flown home, feeling no symptoms yet, and since returned to school and work. This has the potential now to truly explode in the UK in the next 10 days or so.
Could well be, have to hope we can delay an explosion of cases for as long as possible in the hope if giving time for a vaccine to come through.
 


Publius Ovidius

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Jul 5, 2003
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at home
We have visited that hotel a couple of times, drunk in the bar, used the facilities etc...never stayed there.

Starting to get a bit jumpy as we are away for Easter in Madeira for a week!

If there is a 14 day incubation period, then those poor sods stuck in that hotel and then another 14 days when they get back to the UK....wonder what about people who have come home since the Italian guy was diagnosed....all the people on coach trips he may have taken, cabs, airports, on the plane, restaurants he ate in!

Are they going to ask everyone who was in costa Adeje and come home to “ self isolate” for the next two weeks?
 






seagullwedgee

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Aug 9, 2005
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Bad timing! After the Palace game I’m flying to Oz to see middle son, flying via Dubai. And the UAE have just introduced some pretty draconian flight restrictions and cancellations, responding to the mass outbreak in neighbouring Iran. At the rate this is escalating, not sure I’ll make it down under. Got my FFP3 masks and bottles of hand gel ready just in case....
 


peterward

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Nov 11, 2009
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At what point do we just let this run its course ? It seems we can quarantine towns and close hotels and stop sporting events but it is still spreading.

Read a report that reckons this will become part of the seasonal flus, and that we won't eradicate it completely.

For us in the northern hemisphere, I guess it's just a case of trying to get through the next couple of months until warmer weather kicks in, in the hope it dies down from having perfect conditions of transmission till next winter, giving that window of opportunity to try and find either cure or vaccine. It will still be prevelent in our summer for countries in southern hemisphere winters like S.Africa and Australia. So likely to still get the odd case even in summer from people travelling here.

If they don't find a cure/vaccine that can be approved to be used pronto, next winter may well be a pandemic even if we can just about prevent one this winter?
 




Notters

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Oct 20, 2003
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Read a report that reckons this will become part of the seasonal flus, and that we won't eradicate it completely.

For us in the northern hemisphere, I guess it's just a case of trying to get through the next couple of months until warmer weather kicks in, in the hope it dies down from having perfect conditions of transmission till next winter, giving that window of opportunity to try and find either cure or vaccine. It will still be prevelent in our summer for countries in southern hemisphere winters like S.Africa and Australia. So likely to still get the odd case even in summer from people travelling here.

If they don't find a cure/vaccine that can be approved to be used pronto, next winter may well be a pandemic even if we can just about prevent one this winter?

Doesn't seem to be helping much in Iran and Iraq, whose winters are like our summers. Admittedly other conditions there are clearly very different.
 


Mellor 3 Ward 4

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Jul 27, 2004
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Are they going to ask everyone who was in costa Adeje and come home to “ self isolate” for the next two weeks?

Too late for that I would think - hundreds of Brits who were there last week have returned and gone back to to work/school.

I guess it depends on when this Italian Doctor arrived there.
 


Kalimantan Gull

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Aug 13, 2003
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Doesn't seem to be helping much in Iran and Iraq, whose winters are like our summers. Admittedly other conditions there are clearly very different.

We haven't yet seen the virus spreading in hot countries, I just checked the weather for Qom in Iran where the outbreak is, highs of 14, night time temperatures down to 1 degree. Iran is mountainous and can be chilly in the winter
 
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It's coming here whether we like it or not, hope I'm wrong thou.
 




Rodney Thomas

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May 2, 2012
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We haven't yet seen the virus spreading in hot countries, I just checked the weather for Qom in Iran where the outbreak is, highs of 14, night time temperatures down to 1 degree. Iran is mountainous and can be chilly in the winter

Exactly, many scientists are predicting that it'll be seasonal in the same way influenza is which might give the Northern Hemisphere time to get a vaccine together before next winter.

Edit - and we can see how it spreads in Tenerife
 




Bozza

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Jul 4, 2003
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If they don't find a cure/vaccine that can be approved to be used pronto, next winter may well be a pandemic even if we can just about prevent one this winter?

At least one vaccine was created some weeks ago. The sequencing of testing and trials will take a fair few months though.
 




studio150

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Jul 30, 2011
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On the Border
It would be long before PB has BHAFC badged face masks in the club shop to ensure this virus isn't transmitted to the players. A bargain a £9.99 each.
 


bhafc99

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Oct 14, 2003
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Dubai
Just seen the footage of the press conference given yesterday by Iran’s Deputy Health Minister, where he stood in front of the gathered media and insisted the outbreak was minor and under control.

Poor bloke looked sweaty and unwell throughout.

Today, he just tested positive for Coronavirus.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-toll-rises-15-amid-surge-new-infections.html


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Horton's halftime iceberg

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Jan 9, 2005
16,486
Brighton
At what point do we just let this run its course ? It seems we can quarantine towns and close hotels and stop sporting events but it is still spreading.

Once viruses are classed as pandemics, humans/authorities stop the containment phase - this phase often sees it blow out. It is currently a long way from that, the last flu pandemic was the Hong Kong flu in the late sixtys that killed about 1 million world wide.

This is nothing compared to the Spanish Flu a hundred years ago that killed about 500 million people.

Most of us would have had flu/coronovirus which their are hundreds off and about three strains have done the rounds in the last year or two. This is when they become endemic i.e common within the population.

The ones most of us have had have a 99.9% survival rate. The Covid -19 has a 99% survival rate and is not in anyway endemic or pandemic yet. Most deaths are elderly people 75 plus. Measles (due to non vaccine supporters, strokes, liver diesease etc etc are far more likely to kill us right now.

Populations build immunity as well. I hate the Keep Calm signs but in this case its really Keep Calm Carry on and wash your hands, do not sneeze or cough on people. At Sheffield away on Saturday I have never seen as many men at a football game wash their hands and germs away as there.
 


Swansman

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May 13, 2019
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Sweden
We haven't yet seen the virus spreading in hot countries, I just checked the weather for Qom in Iran where the outbreak is, highs of 14, night time temperatures down to 1 degree. Iran is mountainous and can be chilly in the winter

A lot of African countries are saying that they have no or barely any testing kits though.
 


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