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LamieRobertson

Not awoke
Feb 3, 2008
46,980
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Why? Because it doesn't match yours?

My views match those of a more diverse group of peoples than the partisan bias of most people in this thread.



You can't make this statement as an absolute truth.



You'd be better to ask all the women who voted for him, You'd get a better answer from them than me.

We have example from a previous President that this kind of thing really doesn't matter to the voting population so perhaps it's not that big of an issue to a lot of people.



You mean an answer without highlighting previous precedence?

It's strange how this term "whataboutism" appeared to be used as a deflection of hypocrisy.

:rotlf:

Have a look in the mirror when calling people biased
 










CHAPPERS

DISCO SPENG
Jul 5, 2003
44,815
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He should be impeached for this waffle aside from anything else.

On another note, this is quite the coincidence isn't it?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/22/trump-ukraine-emails-aid-held-soon-after-phone-call

As Republicans and Democrats continue to squabble on the terms of Trump’s impeachment trial in the Senate, newly-released government emails show that it took only about 90 minutes after Donald Trump’s infamous July telephone call to Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskiy for White House officials to order the Pentagon to freeze military funding for Ukraine.


The correspondence, published by the Center for Public Integrity, appears to show that Trump appointees acted quickly after the call, behind the scenes, to block Ukrainian aid from the Pentagon.
 




Albion my Albion

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Feb 6, 2016
18,278
Indiana, USA
I have. I'm good.

Relying on non-partisan information sets you free from bias.

You need to put your sources for everything you reference because there is no way that your sources are not non-biased like you say they are. You are just brainwashed by your sources.

Some of the info you spew out is extremely false and toxic like most of Trumps tweets.

Prove it that they are not instead of just spewing out false info.
 




Albion my Albion

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Feb 6, 2016
18,278
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Tweets have zero relevance. Tweeting is like a drunk at the pub shouting at people. Who cares.

You need to read between the lines. Here's an example of how thinking tweets mean anything while you're missing the real stories worth looking into.


Democrats to the public: Trump is the most dangerous person in the world we need to stop him...

Reality: Democrats approved 733 billion to military funding and overwhelmingly voted to increase spying powers for the government.

Do you not see how people are being taken for a fool by believing the Democrats bullshit? If Trump is the most dangerous person on the planet why would you green light that amount of money for him to use on military?

If he's so dangerous why are they enabling him?

It's literally saying one thing but doing another. How can a logical critical mind not look at that and go hang on, something very fishy is going on.

If the Democrats truly believed the crap they spin you they'd be opposing such military spending, not approving it.

False! Dems did not approve 733 billion to only military funding.

I'm going to start tweeting that you are a pedophile. Do you think your mates with children might start treating you differently? Do you think that false info in tweets have zero relevance now?
 




Fungus

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May 21, 2004
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Tyrone Biggums

Well-known member
Jun 25, 2006
13,498
Geelong, Australia
You need to put your sources for everything you reference because there is no way that your sources are not non-biased like you say they are. You are just brainwashed by your sources.

Some of the info you spew out is extremely false and toxic like most of Trumps tweets.

Prove it that they are not instead of just spewing out false info.

I always provide links to the articles or sources.

So you're saying that to the wrong person.

It's you who just spews your brainwashed opinions with no credible sources.

I never quote Fox. I quote sources who are considered Liberal, Progressive or Libertarian leaning.

I've referenced Dylan Rattigan and Aaron Mate before and yet it's still ignored by people like yourself because you don't actually want any truths.

All you want is your bias confirmation.

It's obvious these days that MSNBC, CNN are no more trustworthy than Fox.

It says a lot when Democrat Presidential candidate Andrew Yang has boycotted MSNBC but can get a fair hearing on Fox.

So tell me who you think are non-biased sources?
 


studio150

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Jul 30, 2011
29,694
On the Border
Interesting situation developing given many on here parrot the Trump is a Russian puppet angle.

https://amp.dw.com/en/trump-signs-off-on-sanctions-against-nord-stream-2-pipeline/a-51759319

Don't see how it's any of the US business to be honest. More US meddling.
However it puts to bed the bullshit that the US President is behest to the will of the leader of Russia.

Although this action raises concerns for the EU, and clearly Russia would like to see an EU if not fully broken up, having less influence and being weaker.

So its either Trump being tough on Russia, or Trump undermining the EU for the benefit of Russia.
 




Tyrone Biggums

Well-known member
Jun 25, 2006
13,498
Geelong, Australia
False! Dems did not approve 733 billion to only military funding.

I'm going to start tweeting that you are a pedophile. Do you think your mates with children might start treating you differently? Do you think that false info in tweets have zero relevance now?

It's a fact. They passed a bill that would fund the military to the tune of 733 billion. The stipulations they put on it are totally irrelevant.

Once again. If as you say Trump is the most dangerous man in the world, why would you give him 733 billion in military funding to go reek havoc on the world?

If you thought he was that dangerous you'd block all funding would you not?

It's saying one thing and doing another.
 


Tyrone Biggums

Well-known member
Jun 25, 2006
13,498
Geelong, Australia
Although this action raises concerns for the EU, and clearly Russia would like to see an EU if not fully broken up, having less influence and being weaker.

So its either Trump being tough on Russia, or Trump undermining the EU for the benefit of Russia.

I'd think it not going ahead would mean far less money going into Russia and Putin's corrupt pockets.

Imagine all the bribes and kick backs involved in a project like this involving Russian Oligarchs and politicians.

Trump has no business however in the affairs of Europe in this regard.
 






Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
61,825
Location Location
“I’ve studied it better than anybody I know. I never understood wind. You know, I know windmills very much. They’re noisy. They kill the birds. You want to see a bird graveyard? Go under a windmill someday. You’ll see more birds than you’ve ever seen in your life.”

“They’re made in China and Germany mostly. But they’re manufactured tremendous if you’re into this, tremendous fumes. Gases are spewing into the atmosphere. You know we have a world, right? So the world is tiny compared to the universe. So tremendous, tremendous amount of fumes and everything. You talk about the carbon footprint, fumes are spewing into the air, right? Spewing. Whether it’s in China, Germany, it’s going into the air. It’s our air, their air, everything, right?”

“You see all those [windmills]. They’re all different shades of color. They’re like sort of white, but one is like an orange-white. It’s my favorite color, orange. You know what they don’t tell you about windmills? After 10 years they look like hell. They start to get tired, old.”


He's really not well, is he ?
 


vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
27,923
“I’ve studied it better than anybody I know. I never understood wind. You know, I know windmills very much. They’re noisy. They kill the birds. You want to see a bird graveyard? Go under a windmill someday. You’ll see more birds than you’ve ever seen in your life.”

“They’re made in China and Germany mostly. But they’re manufactured tremendous if you’re into this, tremendous fumes. Gases are spewing into the atmosphere. You know we have a world, right? So the world is tiny compared to the universe. So tremendous, tremendous amount of fumes and everything. You talk about the carbon footprint, fumes are spewing into the air, right? Spewing. Whether it’s in China, Germany, it’s going into the air. It’s our air, their air, everything, right?”

“You see all those [windmills]. They’re all different shades of color. They’re like sort of white, but one is like an orange-white. It’s my favorite color, orange. You know what they don’t tell you about windmills? After 10 years they look like hell. They start to get tired, old.”


He's really not well, is he ?

Carbon Monoxide poisoning ? It's strange, go back 10 or 20 years and a politician who either stuttered or said something odd in a speech was immediately the focus of attention of the press and media with the suspicion that they were " losing it" or had had a couple too many to drink or was ill. Now days, Trump ( and Johnsons !) inaccurate slurring, mangled words and outright lies are just reported and everybody accepts it as fine. Several senior Tory MP's and ministers actually RESIGNED for misleading or lying to parliament, how times have changed.
 


Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
61,825
Location Location
Carbon Monoxide poisoning ? It's strange, go back 10 or 20 years and a politician who either stuttered or said something odd in a speech was immediately the focus of attention of the press and media with the suspicion that they were " losing it" or had had a couple too many to drink or was ill. Now days, Trump ( and Johnsons !) inaccurate slurring, mangled words and outright lies are just reported and everybody accepts it as fine. Several senior Tory MP's and ministers actually RESIGNED for misleading or lying to parliament, how times have changed.

Its just so commonplace now, its just become accepted as "the norm". Johnson lies just about every time he opens his mouth, now everyone just shrugs. Its what he does.

Trump comes out with a load of barely legible gobbledegook, now everyone frowns, has a chuckle and lets him crack on. Normal service.
 


vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
27,923
Its just so commonplace now, its just become accepted as "the norm". Johnson lies just about every time he opens his mouth, now everyone just shrugs. Its what he does.

Trump comes out with a load of barely legible gobbledegook, now everyone frowns, has a chuckle and lets him crack on. Normal service.

Except he holds the codes for nuclear Armageddon !
 




Albion my Albion

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Feb 6, 2016
18,278
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I always provide links to the articles or sources.

So you're saying that to the wrong person.

It's you who just spews your brainwashed opinions with no credible sources.

I never quote Fox. I quote sources who are considered Liberal, Progressive or Libertarian leaning.

I've referenced Dylan Rattigan and Aaron Mate before and yet it's still ignored by people like yourself because you don't actually want any truths.

All you want is your bias confirmation.

It's obvious these days that MSNBC, CNN are no more trustworthy than Fox.

It says a lot when Democrat Presidential candidate Andrew Yang has boycotted MSNBC but can get a fair hearing on Fox.

So tell me who you think are non-biased sources?


BBC, NPR, most of CNN, most of MSNBC. Your just saying that it's obvious that MSNBC & CNN are no more trustworthy than Fox. I say Fox lies more than both MSNBC & CNN combined.

Prove that I'm wrong.
 




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