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[Politics] The General Election Thread

How are you voting?

  • Conservative and Unionist Party

    Votes: 176 32.3%
  • Labour Party

    Votes: 146 26.8%
  • Liberal Democrat’s

    Votes: 139 25.5%
  • Green Party

    Votes: 44 8.1%
  • Independent Candidate

    Votes: 4 0.7%
  • Monster Raving Looney Party

    Votes: 7 1.3%
  • Other

    Votes: 29 5.3%

  • Total voters
    545
  • Poll closed .


D

Deleted member 2719

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So you are blind, deaf, stupid and ignorant.
Full house.
It's because of idiots like you that this country is in this mess.


The hate that comes from you is quite astounding, go and bash one out, will you?

It's the idiot undemocratic MPs that have blocked parliament, and that has caused this mess, and dumb asses like yourself have just stood there and continued to cry like spoilt brats and wind it all up.


:tantrum::tantrum::tantrum:
 




Hugo Rune

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Feb 23, 2012
21,885
Brighton
Does it matter what Corbyns view is? I mean, if I choose to fly to Greece, I don't need to know if the Pilot would rather be flying to Italy, he is still taking me to Greece.

The people should make the final decision on the Brexit deal rather than politicians (from all sides) who have not been able to do it. I suspect Corbyn is an avid leaver but I don’t care what he thinks, I’ll make my decision based on all the facts I’ve learned over the last 4 years. It’s clear that members of the Labour Party (like last time) will be free to campaign on either side; I suspect they’ll be the only party to allow that, the only party that represents the split views of the Country.
 


shingle

Well-known member
Jan 18, 2004
3,146
Lewes
Can I suggest then, that if you don't want to be 'disappointed' or 'lied to yet again' (depending on your POV) you read up a little about the trade deals that the EU has done in the past and how long they take by size and complexity.

And, of course, I'm sure you are aware that the current £39B 'divorce bill' only takes us to the end of 2020 and a new bill will need to be negotiated if we go beyond that date.

As a little steer, you may want to start with the most recent Canada deal, which has taken over 10 years, has no aspect of services (the thing that makes up 80% of Britain's GDP) and still isn't fully implemented.

Enjoy your reading :thumbsup:

Off out to dinner, so no rush :wave:

We're out on 31 Jan you know it and I know it. Enjoy your big mac :thumbsup:
 










birthofanorange

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Aug 31, 2011
6,011
David Gilmour's armpit
The hate that comes from you is quite astounding, go and bash one out, will you?

It's the idiot undemocratic MPs that have blocked parliament, and that has caused this mess, and dumb asses like yourself have just stood there and continued to cry like spoilt brats and wind it all up.


:tantrum::tantrum::tantrum:

Oooh....you're back. Have you been released after all that blood-spilling? Must say, I've really not noticed much of that going on, despite your assurances/veiled threats. Still, soon be Christmas, eh? :)
 


Baldseagull

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
11,015
Crawley
I knew it was quite a large number of countries that we had arrangements with, didn't realise it was quite that large. I see we have no trade deal with the Saudis, how do we get round that, to illegally sell them arms.

We can sell anything to anyone, except Syria I think as there is a UN Embargo. But when we have a trade deal with a country, we can sell at reduced or zero Tariff, on the condition that they can also sell to us with reduced or zero Tariff. Free marketeers would like the world to be able to trade with whoever else in the world without tariff, and this would be good, so long as one country is not using child labour, or slave labour, or has poor environmental standards.
 




daveinplzen

New member
Aug 31, 2018
2,846
The hate that comes from you is quite astounding, go and bash one out, will you?

It's the idiot undemocratic MPs that have blocked parliament, and that has caused this mess, and dumb asses like yourself have just stood there and continued to cry like spoilt brats and wind it all up.


:tantrum::tantrum::tantrum:



How did the street battles go?
 


Yoda

English & European
it maybe doesnt matter what his view is, shirley not unreasonably to expect he has a view?

Corbyn's view is simple and I cannot believe so many people cannot see it.

Remain in the Custom's Union.

He gets his deal with the EU where we leave but remain in the Custom's Union, it goes to a 2nd Referendum, people's vote, or what ever you, me, they decide to call it.

We for for it. = Corbyn wins.

We vote against it and to remain. = Corbyn wins.
 


lawros left foot

Glory hunting since 1969
Jun 11, 2011
13,772
Worthing
Two things.

To be fair to Johnson and the Tories, they have to lie, because nobody would vote for them otherwise.

Corbyn won’t declare which option he will endorse, if he gets the chance to negotiate a new deal, because, and here’s the sensible bit, he doesn’t yet know what deal he can get out of the EU. Why he didn’t make this point last night, I fail to understand.
It would have shut his critics up, and it appears eminently sensible.
 






piersa

Well-known member
Apr 17, 2011
3,155
London
The hate that comes from you is quite astounding, go and bash one out, will you?

It's the idiot undemocratic MPs that have blocked parliament, and that has caused this mess, and dumb asses like yourself have just stood there and continued to cry like spoilt brats and wind it all up.

:tantrum::tantrum::tantrum:

All the above with bells on
 






Weststander

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Aug 25, 2011
64,835
Withdean area
Two things.

To be fair to Johnson and the Tories, they have to lie, because nobody would vote for them otherwise.

Corbyn won’t declare which option he will endorse, if he gets the chance to negotiate a new deal, because, and here’s the sensible bit, he doesn’t yet know what deal he can get out of the EU. Why he didn’t make this point last night, I fail to understand.
It would have shut his critics up, and it appears eminently sensible.

But the Lib Dems, Greens and SNP state clearly that they would revoke Article 50 by an emailed letter on day one.

Why on earth hasn’t Corbyn (or the Labour hierarchy) got the balls to say the same?

Why would the Corbynista’s who adore the EU in this thread not demand that he does that, and be thoroughly pissed off that he won’t commit to that?

BECAUSE CORBYN AND HIS NSC FAN-BOYS ARE PAYING PETTY PARTY POLITICS FIRST AND FOREMOST. PLAYING A GAME NOT IN THE NATIONAL INTEREST, OF NOT PUTTING OUR FULL MEMBERSHIP OF THE EU FIRST, IN A DUPLICITOUS APPROACH OF PRETENDING TO BE REMAIN TO SOME CONSTITUENCIES AND BREXIT TO OTHERS.

You’ve relentlessly told us tor 4 years that continued full EU membership is the issue of our times, then allow your hero in not making it the issue of our times by guaranteeing the revocation of Article 50.

Labour/Corbyn furtiveness.

Whilst full marks to Sturgeon, Lucas and Swinson, for having integrity and honesty.
 


wellquickwoody

Many More Voting Years
NSC Patron
Aug 10, 2007
13,644
Melbourne
What stopped you from being an 'ardent Remainer'? I missed your answer to that.....

The fact that the very people that are supposed to enact the will of the electorate have done everything they can to stop the result of the referendum from happening. Just wrong, and pointing out that the result was not legally binding is just semantics.
 




Jan 30, 2008
31,981
The hate that comes from you is quite astounding, go and bash one out, will you?

It's the idiot undemocratic MPs that have blocked parliament, and that has caused this mess, and dumb asses like yourself have just stood there and continued to cry like spoilt brats and wind it all up.


:tantrum::tantrum::tantrum:

He's the gift that keeps on giving , typical sore arrogant loser, the problem for him and his types is that they're going to be reaping what they've sown but they're to blind to see it
Regards
DF
 




Grombleton

Surrounded by <div>s
Dec 31, 2011
7,356
He's the gift that keeps on giving , typical sore arrogant loser, the problem for him and his types is that they're going to be reaping what they've sown but they're to blind to see it
Regards
DF

My irony meter has just blown up.
 




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