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[Albion] Player ratings Manure - Brighton







Murray should not even be on the bench going forward. Potter needs to made the tough decision. Bring on more youngsters for now. Give Jahanbakhsh a chance. Just no more Murray please. Wish he had retired last year while on top. Hopefully he can find a managerial role in the club.

I'm afraid so, and I'm of the opinion that it's a travesty Murray didn't two player of the season awards. But the old skills are almost entirely gone
 


zefarelly

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 7, 2003
22,008
Sussex, by the sea
Jury out for me regarding Maupay. Can't fault his effort or work rate. You could also say the same about AJ though. Where Maupay fails for me to date is woeful finishing. Lots of running but little else.
No real pressure on the front two places which could be a problem. Potter doesn't fancy Murray and maybe the two strikers know that. After a great start for Connolly he also doesn't look like scoring. Hardly had a sniff today. Maybe to much is expected of him ? Real shame we have no other options.

Likewise, somedays he's half AK half CMS . . .and on other days he's won us a game. 4 goals from 12 games isn't fireworks, does he have any assists?

Connolly has been holding off defenders, running the wings and winning corners etc . . . . I really struggle with Gross on the bench when he's a top 6 PL creator, and a blue arse fly running around up front doesn't deliver anything.

Today's not really the issue, we were up against much better and quicker players on average. But we need to make sure we continue to nail home our strengths and advantages when we reasonably can. And we have done. 12 games in and 1.25 points a game. :D
 


Kosh

'The' Yaztromo
It seems to me that when Dale is off colour or more pertinently made to be, we lose all ability to drive our game forward and create or indeed press home our advantage. He’s our fulcrum, and when he flounders we all do. The trouble is that it’s an too regular occurrence against the top half of this division. I guess the rub is this, if we are ever to be much more than relegation make weights, the club need to ask why Dale Stephens is the answer to all the riddles... and if so what is the question?

I think it is this; If we are to really progress who do we need an upgrade on?

The answer is surely writ-large in the above.

It’s frustrating and rather paradoxical that our best player on his day, is also the embodiment of why we are perhaps not really progressing.

We need to look for a viable Dale Stephens upgrade in a world where that is likely to cost more than the worth of Sussex itself.

Shame when reality harshly bites.
 


Washie

Well-known member
Jun 20, 2011
5,673
Eastbourne
Likewise, somedays he's half AK half CMS . . .and on other days he's won us a game. 4 goals from 12 games isn't fireworks, does he have any assists?

Connolly has been holding off defenders, running the wings and winning corners etc . . . . I really struggle with Gross on the bench when he's a top 6 PL creator, and a blue arse fly running around up front doesn't deliver anything.

Today's not really the issue, we were up against much better and quicker players on average. But we need to make sure we continue to nail home our strengths and advantages when we reasonably can. And we have done. 12 games in and 1.25 points a game. :D

12 games, he will end up around 14 for the season. which isn't bad.
 




DJ NOBO

Well-known member
Jul 18, 2004
6,441
Wiltshire
Poor performance against a team that is in a false position.
Not the time to be retiring Murray. He’s always been slow. But then he’ll net one and he’s a NSC darling again.
Burn got roasted. He deserves some slack for hos strong season.
Maupay was crap today . He is worth persevering with though.
Montoya is painfully average and I hope there are plans to upgrade.
Potter’s tactics left us exposed. Credit to Man U - they outplayed us today.
 


zefarelly

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NSC Patron
Jul 7, 2003
22,008
Sussex, by the sea
12 games, he will end up around 14 for the season. which isn't bad.

If he does then no it's not. Especially in a team like these. But I won't be surprised if Trossard and Connolly score as many as he does.

I don't really care who scores as long as we score at least 10 more than we concede from now on, that's potentially 30 more points!
 


Swansman

Pro-peace
May 13, 2019
22,320
Sweden
It seems to me that when Dale is off colour or more pertinently made to be, we lose all ability to drive our game forward and create or indeed press home our advantage. He’s our fulcrum, and when he flounders we all do. The trouble is that it’s an too regular occurrence against the top half of this division. I guess the rub is this, if we are ever to be much more than relegation make weights, the club need to ask why Dale Stephens is the answer to all the riddles... and if so what is the question?

I think it is this; If we are to really progress who do we need an upgrade on?

The answer is surely writ-large in the above.

It’s frustrating and rather paradoxical that our best player on his day, is also the embodiment of why we are perhaps not really progressing.

We need to look for a viable Dale Stephens upgrade in a world where that is likely to cost more than the worth of Sussex itself.

Shame when reality harshly bites.

Yes. I think he is a great player and the single most important player in this Brighton side, because there seems to be no real options in the squad to fit his role. But its a Championship player with a Premier League brain. Think he probably have a few years left in him but would be surprised if he is a player for the starting eleven in a year or so. Its a position where you really cant take chances on recruitment though. I wouldnt be surprised to see some of GP:s old performers arriving at Brighton.

Foud Bachirou could be a cheap midseason cover. Next summer I'd like to see Matt Grimes.

But for now I expect Stephens to play 90 min in 38 games if possible.
 




blue-shifted

Banned
Feb 20, 2004
7,645
a galaxy far far away
Poor performance against a team that is in a false position.
Not the time to be retiring Murray. He’s always been slow. But then he’ll net one and he’s a NSC darling again.
Burn got roasted. He deserves some slack for hos strong season.
Maupay was crap today . He is worth persevering with though.
Montoya is painfully average and I hope there are plans to upgrade.
Potter’s tactics left us exposed. Credit to Man U - they outplayed us today.

And because he is being played out of position. There aren't too many full backs of that stature for a reason
 


Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
72,015
We got outclassed, it happens and anyone who didn’t see a result like this (and there will be more) coming is sticking their heads in the sand or just not getting that the way we are playing opens us up to get well beaten.

I hope for but expect nothing better in the next three games either.

We were always going to be in a relegation scrap again this season. It’s much more watchable than the last one though :shrug:
 


Wardy's twin

Well-known member
Oct 21, 2014
8,519
Most comments indicate that Connolly had a better game than Maupay was that true in first half and if so why was Connolly substituted?
 




Sue1983

Well-known member
Aug 15, 2018
572
Watched it on a stream. They were just too good for us on the day. They seemed hungrier for the ball than we did and it showed.

Ryan - 6
Montoya - 4
Duffy - 6
Dunk - 7 MOM
Burn - 3

Stephens - 5
Pröpper - 6
Alzate - 5
Trossard - 4

Connolly - 5
Maupay - 5

Subs
Murray - 3
Gross - 6
March - 6
 


graz126

New member
Oct 17, 2003
4,146
doncaster
Ryan - 8
Montoya - 5
Duffy - 5
Dunk - 6
Burn - 4
Alzate -5
Stephens - 5
Propper - 7
Trossard - 5
Connolly - 5
Maupay - 5

Murray - 4
March - 6
Gross - 6
 






raymondo

Well-known member
Apr 26, 2017
6,027
Wiltshire
It seems to me that when Dale is off colour or more pertinently made to be, we lose all ability to drive our game forward and create or indeed press home our advantage. He’s our fulcrum, and when he flounders we all do. The trouble is that it’s an too regular occurrence against the top half of this division. I guess the rub is this, if we are ever to be much more than relegation make weights, the club need to ask why Dale Stephens is the answer to all the riddles... and if so what is the question?

I think it is this; If we are to really progress who do we need an upgrade on?

The answer is surely writ-large in the above.

It’s frustrating and rather paradoxical that our best player on his day, is also the embodiment of why we are perhaps not really progressing.

We need to look for a viable Dale Stephens upgrade in a world where that is likely to cost more than the worth of Sussex itself.

Shame when reality harshly bites.

True, but perhaps also it's because of the players around him that he struggles against the top sides - Stephens is expected to do a lot [IMHO], and sometimes he doesn't get the support around him. He is sometimes fragile in dangerous parts of the pitch, but then most of the Albion are when against the top sides. Will be interesting to see how the squad gets upgraded.
 




HalfaSeatOn

Well-known member
Mar 17, 2014
1,929
North West Sussex
Ryan - 9 (couldn't see first half events but stopped it being 5 or 6-1)
Montoya - 4 (will be a memory this time next year)
Duffy - 6
Dunk - 6
Burn - 6
Alzate -5
Stephens - 6
Propper - 7
Trossard - 4
Connolly - 6
Maupay - 6

Murray - 4
March - 4
Gross - 5
 


Swansman

Pro-peace
May 13, 2019
22,320
Sweden
Ryan - 9 (couldn't see first half events but stopped it being 5 or 6-1)
Montoya - 4 (will be a memory this time next year)
Duffy - 6
Dunk - 6
Burn - 6
Alzate -5
Stephens - 6
Propper - 7
Trossard - 4
Connolly - 6
Maupay - 6

Murray - 4
March - 4
Gross - 5

Couldnt see first half yet give Montoya a 4?
 








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