[Albion] Good Chris Hughton interview today

[Ernest]

Ha ! I don't think they should have sacked him and Bloom has made a risky mistake. is that the club view ?

Your view is whatever Barber has emailed you to have

 

[chaileyjem]

I wasn’t querying that , I was giving Chailey, who questioned when TB had said he had considered sacking CH a few weeks before, a link to where it was said. I don’t doubt it was a shock to CH but as I said before I’m surprised he couldn’t potentially see it coming.

I wasn't questioning the Argus reporting at all or that Bloom had thought about it beforehand. You'd be amazed if he hadn't.
But he certainly hadn't said it to anyone publicly either then or subsequently. And the constant implication again and again on here that Hughton is at best naive or worst lying when he insists it came as a shock is a bit insulting .

 

[Super Steve Earle]

I think CH lives in CH world and has a singular, unvarying approach to everything. I genuinely don't think he recognises criticism because for him, he and his system are the only way. Any warning signs about consequences would not have been recognised, so he wouldn't see the sacking coming. He is so single minded that all he can bring away from Wimbledon is another flipping comment about levels! He may be a delightful man, but he wouldn't be on my celebrity dinner party list!

 

[b.w.2.]

An idea that the club were underperforming, had put a string of poor results together, were at risk until the last minute of relegation . Of course he did. He talked about mutliple times in interviews through that period and in the Times interview this morning. Its pretty patronising to pretend he didn't.
Thats not the same as expecting to be sacked. By all accounts Bloom made the decision late in the day, Hughton was under impression (according to various reports) that he was being called in to Lancing to discuss the summer recruitment and in his interviews post Arsenal , post Man City he had talked in good faith about "next season".
Plenty on NSC , even those that had argued he should go, according to their own posts, were shocked and surprised Bloom had done it.
Why are you so amazed that Hughton was shocked ?

For the reasons you state... simple...


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[b.w.2.]

Ha ! I don't think they should have sacked him and Bloom has made a risky mistake. is that the club view ?

Traitor


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[b.w.2.]

I wasn't questioning the Argus reporting at all or that Bloom had thought about it beforehand. You'd be amazed if he hadn't.
But he certainly hadn't said it to anyone publicly either then or subsequently. And the constant implication again and again on here that Hughton is at best naive or worst lying when he insists it came as a shock is a bit insulting .

Sorry [emoji52] I’m going to upset you again. I will say I am certain your beloved ever-so-nice Chris is delivering a mischievous untruth when he says he was shocked. He is not stupid, and the results and performances he oversaw for several months and over half a season warranted a sacking.


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[Stat Brother]

Come on Chailey you must have seen Bloom’s alleged comments about this in the plethora of post sacking articles. You are quick enough to find ones that back up your viewpoint

https://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/sp...sidered-sacking-chris-hughton-four-weeks-ago/

I doubt the Argus would have made it up, don’t you?

As you're now arguing about the exact words Tony might have used privately, and not the intent of those words, you'll forgive me for staying out of this particular level of myopia.

At least it's on NSC so I don't have to write 'can you believe this nonsense?'

 

[Icy Gull]

As you're now arguing about the exact words Tony might have used privately, and not the intent of those words, you'll forgive me for staying out of this particular level of myopia.

At least it's on NSC so I don't have to write 'can you believe this nonsense?'

I won’t be backing you up again

 

[BensGrandad]

I think about Oct/Nov time a chairman of a low performing club in The Premier will look at him as reliable and able to keep them up, perhaps Sheff Utd or similar.

 

[Stat Brother]

I won’t be backing you up again

TBH I'm glad you did as I was somewhat floored by the original reply.

 

[Worried Man Blues]

I think about Oct/Nov time a chairman of a low performing club in The Premier will look at him as reliable and able to keep them up, perhaps Sheff Utd or similar.

Ironically that was about the time it all went Pete Tong!

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

“The biggest disappointment is that I never saw it coming,” the 60-year-old says. “As a manager you get a feel when things are not right or relationships have broken down, but there was never anything there for me to feel what was coming. I thought the chairman was in there for club stuff or if he was there to see me it was about the pre-season, so it was a big shock. For a moment I couldn’t say anything. I absolutely wasn’t expecting it, I was stunned, there was a silence.”

Fair warning to Potter. It could happen to you the same way. Never ever keep your guard down. You could be sacked at any day or time. It's now the Albion Way. The Albion upper management should be ashamed. This should never have happened to a man like Chris Hughton.

Oh FFS. Talk about completely misunderstanding the club. CH can cope, and has had his contract fully paid up, no strings attached. But he was the manager, not the owner. Ultimately the buck stops with TB. Luckily for us he has balls of steele and didn't wimp out of making a necessary (in his view, our view is irrelevant) decision out of sentiment. We are a football club, not a Darby and Joan club.

 

[keaton]

Also making it fairly certain he wasn't told his job was safe, either.

Not really, only if Bloom was honest with him at that point.
I don't know if he did or did not, but I think there's the possibility he did. If Chris was set the target 4th from bottom and a cup run he might assume he was safe

 

[Bwian]

Ha ! I don't think they should have sacked him and Bloom has made a risky mistake. is that the club view ?

Confusing times for you?

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[Bwian]

In that report they state Hughton had no inkling of his planned sacking

"Albion picked up their first away point in 12 attempts against the top six at Arsenal in what proved to be Hughton’s last away game in charge.

He had no inkling of Bloom’s decision in the immediate aftermath of his final match, Sunday’s 4-1 defeat at the Amex which clinched the title for Manchester City."

It's been said before but if Hughton had no inkling after stinking out the PL (for half a season at least) then the decision to fire him was definitely the correct one. People have to remember that Tony Bloom has been a fan a lot longer than he's been Chairman. He will not have liked what he was watching. Thankfully he doesn't interfere with team selection, etc. like some owners so he left Hughton to do his job. In the end we all know what happened.

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[One Teddy Maybank]

Oh FFS. Talk about completely misunderstanding the club. CH can cope, and has had his contract fully paid up, no strings attached. But he was the manager, not the owner. Ultimately the buck stops with TB. Luckily for us he has balls of steele and didn't wimp out of making a necessary (in his view, our view is irrelevant) decision out of sentiment. We are a football club, not a Darby and Joan club.

All true.
But it certainly doesn’t/shouldn’t stop some of us from questioning it.

I didn’t agree at all, but we may well be mid-table at the end of the season, and playing more expansive football, which is presumably what Bloom aspires to.

Personally, once again I’d take safety and a cup run.


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[phoenix]

Reaffirms what most people believe about his character but seems the interviewer has an agenda! Not sure how it can be said with certainty that the cup run was a negative impact on the season. It may or may not have been.

Did the 83 cup final have a negative impact? Answer-------------we were relegated that season, i believe it did. I think 3rd 4th maybe 5th round is ok. After that players want to be fit for cup games. Foot comes off the pedal in League, its not deliberate it just seems to happen !

 

[rogersix]

All true.
But it certainly doesn’t/shouldn’t stop some of us from questioning it.

I didn’t agree at all, but we may well be mid-table at the end of the season, and playing more expansive football, which is presumably what Bloom aspires to.

Personally, once again I’d take safety and a cup run.


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you can't have CH and safety, one or t'other

 

[drew]

We'd have played Cardiff on the weekend of the Millwall match - before the relegation spiral had started in earnest.

If we'd have won, Hughton may still be here.

The relegation spiral had already begun. You can't say one way or the other whether it had a negative effect. Even if we had played Cardiff on 17th March you are still speculating whether we would have won. Fact is we don't know.

 

[drew]

Yes it shows he was never spoken to about improving results,so it all came as a surprise after keeping the club up
The manager he took over from was begged to stay by the chairman, even though he was taking us down. A previous manager had a hearing and a right to appeal. I think he had a right to be surprised by previous handling of the managers and the inconsistency

You seem to post comments as if they are facts when they are merely your supposition unless I've got this wrong and you were in every meeting between TB and CH taking the minutes!!!