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Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
64,313
Withdean area
I’m an opponent of Trump, but why the tiny anti-Trump crowd today compared to last time?

Protest fatigue, or grudging acceptance that he will be President for some considerable time to come, or the UK public have become acclimatised to his insults and nationalism?
 


birthofanorange

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Aug 31, 2011
5,941
David Gilmour's armpit
So he did say NHS then, apologies for doubting users and the radio here. Am I worried, no because I don't think it means American companies are going to charge us to use the NHS. What I think is that American companies would be allowed to offer health insurance or other services, like companies do already in this country.

I admire your unfounded optimism, when it come to what America/Trump would like to do.
Me? I prefer to err on the side of caution.
 




Gully Forever

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May 9, 2011
1,543
Post signs on all the beaches and cliffs, NHS no longer for free loaders.. So immigrants can feck right off and go back now.
 




maltaseagull

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Feb 25, 2009
13,058
Zabbar- Malta
Wouldn't NO DEAL be great we could rid ourselves of all those unhelpful trade agreements that allow us to have a large trade surplus with the US currently.

Raw WTO would be so much better, we could start from scratch and get a far better deal in no time at all.

Sky News saying trade deal with the USA could take 5 years!
 












nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
17,648
Gods country fortnightly
Post signs on all the beaches and cliffs, NHS no longer for free loaders.. So immigrants can feck right off and go back now.

Guess if the natives could no longer free load, we'd need less immigrants to run the NHS to run for us...
 


drew

Drew
Oct 3, 2006
23,073
Burgess Hill
So he did say NHS then, apologies for doubting users and the radio here. Am I worried, no because I don't think it means American companies are going to charge us to use the NHS. What I think is that American companies would be allowed to offer health insurance or other services, like companies do already in this country.

The NHS and anything else that takes their fancy because in any deal, we will not be negotiating on an equal footing. They have far more power at the table than us plus our politicians will be desperate to get a deal, any deal, over the line as soon as possible. It's a bit like the situation with Huawei. Security advice is to steer clear but the prospect of a trade deal with China means May has abandoned wisdom.

The politicians will sell us down the river and we'll be stuck with it for decades.
 


birthofanorange

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Aug 31, 2011
5,941
David Gilmour's armpit
The NHS and anything else that takes their fancy because in any deal, we will not be negotiating on an equal footing. They have far more power at the table than us plus our politicians will be desperate to get a deal, any deal, over the line as soon as possible. It's a bit like the situation with Huawei. Security advice is to steer clear but the prospect of a trade deal with China means May has abandoned wisdom.

The politicians will sell us down the river and we'll be stuck with it for decades.

Still.... #takingbackcontrol etc.
 




pork pie

New member
Dec 27, 2008
6,053
Pork pie land.
I’m an opponent of Trump, but why the tiny anti-Trump crowd today compared to last time?

Protest fatigue, or grudging acceptance that he will be President for some considerable time to come, or the UK public have become acclimatised to his insults and nationalism?

Maybe because he is the elected president of the USA., our number one partner in the world, on a State Visit and not here on a private visit? I must also say that what he has to say on the visit is so correct.
 


vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
27,907
I’m an opponent of Trump, but why the tiny anti-Trump crowd today compared to last time?

Protest fatigue, or grudging acceptance that he will be President for some considerable time to come, or the UK public have become acclimatised to his insults and nationalism?

Even less " Supporters " of Trump on the streets also, just a stream of right wing Tories and Farage going into the US embassy tonight.
 


Gwylan

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Jul 5, 2003
31,360
Uffern
It's a bit like the situation with Huawei. Security advice is to steer clear but the prospect of a trade deal with China means May has abandoned wisdom.

It's more that there's not much choice. Huawei own something like 30% of the patents for 5G and already in place for large chunks of the UK infrastructure.
 


abc

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Jan 6, 2007
1,060
Even less " Supporters " of Trump on the streets also, just a stream of right wing Tories and Farage going into the US embassy tonight.

Conjures up a horrible image of some sort of 'what if the Nazis had invaded Britain and won' scenario.

But its real. Truly frightening.
 




vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
27,907
Conjures up a horrible image of some sort of 'what if the Nazis had invaded Britain and won' scenario.

But its real. Truly frightening.

As is usual, the President gets away with lying in public " Only one very small protest, it's Fake News again " crazy world !
 


nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
17,648
Gods country fortnightly
As is usual, the President gets away with lying in public " Only one very small protest, it's Fake News again " crazy world !

Averages around 23 lies per day, actually he's had a good day. Not sure if he got into double figures...
 


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