[Politics] Local Council Elections

[clapham_gull]

Labour having a bad night, vote down, losing seats, not winning marginals, just lost Hartlepool to No Overall Control.

Labour losing voters because they aren't remain enough.

Conservatives losing voters because they aren't leave enough.

Greens / Lib Dems picking up the votes because of people are tired of the two big parties.

Don't know what other people do in locals, but I check out the percentages first. Tories always win here, so I try to get someone else to mix it up a bit.

I'd be massively surprised next year that I don't end up with: Khan as Mayor, Labour MP and Tory council.

 

[Questions]

Labour having a bad night, vote down, losing seats, not winning marginals, just lost Hartlepool and the Wirral to No Overall Control.

More than ever people are looking at how they perceived the leaders are performing at national level. I just want weekly bin collections here in Worthing.

 

[GT49er]

All the main parties taking a bashing (in many cases by people just refusing to turn out and vote for any of the scumbags) because they've all, to a greater or lesser extent, tried to find ways of cheating, weaselling out of doing what they have been mandated to do, ignoring democracy and trying to get away with ignoring a referendum result they don't like.

UKIP, unfortunately, since Farage has left, have turned into a nasty right wing party offering a quasi-respectable home for EDF and BNP supporters - so equally unelectable. Lib Dems (despite their determination to overturn the people's vote (yes, we have already had it, in 2016)) has become the go-to protest vote, mainly because people know that a vote for them is pretty safe in that it won't have any affect - the Lib Dems won't matter or achieve anything in any real sense anywhere. It's a protest vote, but safely wasted.

 

[Pavilionaire]

I think the Green Party will turn a corner this month. As political ideology becomes less attractive the ideology of saving the planet is something people can get behind, and Corbyn's anti-second referendum stance will encourage younger voters in particular to go Green.

 

[Pavilionaire]

All the main parties taking a bashing (in many cases by people just refusing to turn out and vote for any of the scumbags) because they've all, to a greater or lesser extent, tried to find ways of cheating, weaselling out of doing what they have been mandated to do, ignoring democracy and trying to get away with ignoring a referendum result they don't like.

UKIP, unfortunately, since Farage has left, have turned into a nasty right wing party offering a quasi-respectable home for EDF and BNP supporters - so equally unelectable. Lib Dems (despite their determination to overturn the people's vote (yes, we have already had it, in 2016)) has become the go-to protest vote, mainly because people know that a vote for them is pretty safe in that it won't have any affect - the Lib Dems won't matter or achieve anything in any real sense anywhere. It's a protest vote, but safely wasted.

A vote for the Lib Dems is a vote for Remain and that Remain sentiment isn't changing anytime soon.

In addition, it's worth remembering the Lib Dems held the balance of power in 2017 but turned down the Tory offer of confidence and supply before they then turned to the DUP. And that was the Lib Dems at their lowest point for decades.

 

[Eeyore]

Remainers voting for remain parties. Leavers, unhappy with the long BREXIT process retaliate by voting for... remain parties. You couldn't make it up.

 

[Eeyore]

I'm disappointed that in my Horsham ward the choice was 2 Tory, 1 UKIP, 1 Labour and 1 Lib Dem and up to 3 choices per ballot. No Green option.

Mid-Sussex Greens (covers different constituencies) were putting out for candidates. I got an email. Not sure that the membership is huge in the area.

 

[clapham_gull]

Just under 50% of the electorate voted remain and brexiteers appear to think they don't exist.

No surprise the Greens and Lib Dems are picking up votes.

Neither major party represents them.

 

[TSB]

Just under 50% of the electorate voted remain and brexiteers appear to think they don't exist.

No surprise the Greens and Lib Dems are picking up votes.

Neither major party represents them.

Precisely the reason for my vote.
Both front benches frighteningly weak too.

 

[Eeyore]

Brighton should be really interesting.

 

[TSB]

Brighton should be really interesting.

I suspect the Greens may become largest party again, picking off some LAB and CON wards. Hung.
Gut feeling only.

 

[ozzygull]

In Wokingham labour making gains but this is a true blue area I think the tories will lose seats to independents as they would not swing to labour though labour have taken a seat in Bracknell, people are super pi1ssed with the tories in this area. Housing is a major issue here the amount of building that has gone on over the last few years is actually out of control. 65,000 house in a village and they are still trying to push through more when a large number of the ones already been built have not sold because they are over priced and sh1t, has put people backs up, some what.

 

[TSB]

Dawn Butler looks out of her depth too.

Such a shite shadow cabinet

 

[TSB]

Maldon District Council

currently
27 Conservatives
5 Independent

Now 16 Cons, 15 Independents.

Bit more interesting.

 

[knocky1]

Sadly, she has links with Iain Duncan-Smith.

http://sussex.academia.edu/AditiBhonagiri

Boo!

She even got a MA for what she did with IDS.

 

[jasetheace]

How is that sitting on the fence lark working out for Labour? It is regrettable that the long lost art of picking a side, banking those votes and then going out to convince the others has perhaps disappeared for generations to come.

 

[Mellotron]

Fair-sized swing away from the parties looking to proceed with Brexit.

Conservatives (pro Brexit) heavy losses, Labour (pro Brexit) minor losses, UKIP (pro Brexit) all but gone, big gains for Lib Dem’s (anti Brexit), Greens (anti Brexit) and Independents (mixed).

The people are showing they don’t want Brexit anymore. Be interesting to see if the undemocratic loons respect democracy.

 

[jakarta]

. The people are showing they don’t want Brexit anymore. Be interesting to see if the undemocratic loons respect democracy.

I would say the people are showing their contempt for the shower of shit on both sides of the argument that have failed to deliver Brexit...

 

[Mellotron]

I would say the people are showing their contempt for the shower of shit on both sides of the argument that have failed to deliver Brexit...

By voting AGAINST Brexit in big numbers. Not sure about your logic there.

Why exactly was UKIP all but decimated yesterday then, and the biggest gains were for a staunchly anti-Brexit Party?

 

[beorhthelm]

By voting AGAINST Brexit in big numbers. Not sure about your logic there.

Why exactly was UKIP all but decimated yesterday then, and the biggest gains were for a staunchly anti-Brexit Party?

you cant say the vote is against Brexit (or anything), other than where UKIP have lost. consider Sunderland strong brexit vote, Labour loses 12 seats to Conservatives. could say thats a vote in favour of Brexit? across the country both main parties have lost but Brexit for and against cuts across party lines. did a councilor get voted out because their party is too brexit, not brexit enough or a local issue? a pox on both your houses is probably the most appropriate analysis, i'd like to see the turn out.