[Politics] Brexit

[beorhthelm]

Didn’t Boris campaign for leave on the basis that we’d stay in the Single Market?

as the evidence above shows, he had a completely different view on EU in the past and changed his mind, dont recall anyone ever saying we leave and stay in the single market. or the customs union for that matter. the politicans seem to want to fool us into a half arsed compromise, because they want to pretend different things to different electorates.

 

[loco61]

71 % on here now Voting remain

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Didn’t Boris campaign for leave on the basis that we’d stay in the Single Market?

No he said we would leave the single market just like numerous other people did.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

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Can someone ask Mr April 15 to move his head slightly to the left please

 

[JC Footy Genius]

ive stayed away a day, just heard Thornberry say something about accepting single market... have Labour lurched towards not leaving but pretending to leave or is that her opinion and not party policy?

hard to see how Customs Union and Single Market differs from remain. just vote to revoke. this dancing round the electorate wont wash.

Thornberry also said they would now accept free movement while trying to pretend she wasn't saying that on World at One .... hope Labour Leave voters are paying attention in all those marginals.

That's the final phase of subverting the referendum result, screw up the leave process, fail to agree to anything, renege on numerous manifesto promises, finally agree to something that most leave voters wouldn't find acceptable and that most remainers say why bother leaving then call for another vote.

 

[nwgull]

No he said we would leave the single market just like numerous other people did.

You’re right. I was confused by having seen a vid of him saying he was strongly in favour of the single market in 2013. Just changed his mind in 2016. Fancy that - changing your mind after 3 years!

 

[Baldseagull]

Jefferson Airplane Group have got it covered

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Growth being attributed to the stockpiling going on here and in EU. The CIPS, referenced in the tweet has a lot of rather more depressing headlines on their pages.
https://www.cips.org/en-gb/supply-m...nufacturing-purchasing-managers-index/?page=1

 

[JC Footy Genius]

You’re right. I was confused by having seen a vid of him saying he was strongly in favour of the single market in 2013. Just changed his mind in 2016. Fancy that - changing your mind after 3 years!

I know, promises and statements made to the electorate in 2016 don't matter, promises and manifesto commitments made in the 2017GE don't matter. Politicians should be allowed to ignore them all and change their policies and opinions whenever they like .... stuff the electorate!

 

[The Rivet]

I know, promises and statements made to the electorate in 2016 don't matter, promises and manifesto commitments made in the 2017GE don't matter. Politicians should be allowed to ignore them all and change their policies and opinions whenever they like .... stuff the electorate!

Well whether leaver or remanier there is now a doubt in the mind that democracy is functioning. Since when has the losing side, in this realm, ever overturned the majority vote so quick? Remain or leave, you have to now ask yourself, is this now a dictatorship?

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Well whether leaver or remanier there is now a doubt in the mind that democracy is functioning. Since when has the losing side, in this realm, ever overturned the majority vote so quick? Remain or leave, you have to now ask yourself, is this now a dictatorship?

Democracy in the UK has been redefined to be more in keeping with EU norms (ignore the electorate if they give the wrong answer) .When has the losing side (that previously made clear this was a once in a lifetime choice) ever insisted democratic results aren't enacted and demand we all vote again?

 

[nwgull]

Well whether leaver or remanier there is now a doubt in the mind that democracy is functioning. Since when has the losing side, in this realm, ever overturned the majority vote so quick? Remain or leave, you have to now ask yourself, is this now a dictatorship?

Who’s the dictator then? Because whoever it is is struggling to overcome our pesky parliamentary democracy.

 

[beorhthelm]

Well whether leaver or remanier there is now a doubt in the mind that democracy is functioning. Since when has the losing side, in this realm, ever overturned the majority vote so quick? Remain or leave, you have to now ask yourself, is this now a dictatorship?

if only, a dictator would have to show some leadership.

 

[The Rivet]

Who’s the dictator then? Because whoever it is is struggling to overcome our pesky parliamentary democracy.

You and I have different versions of democracy then. Oh well.

 

[pb21]

I know, promises and statements made to the electorate in 2016 don't matter, promises and manifesto commitments made in the 2017GE don't matter. Politicians should be allowed to ignore them all and change their policies and opinions whenever they like .... stuff the electorate!

What does the 2017 tory manifesto say about the deal to leave the EU?

It says that they will ensure a smooth and orderly Brexit.

On this basis any Tory MP advocating no deal is reneging on the manifesto that they stood on in 2017. The undemocratic loons.

 

[nwgull]

You and I have different versions of democracy then. Oh well.

Who’s the dictator then?

 

[The Rivet]

This country is all done. Oh well lets have a dictatorship then. Maybe go the whole hog and invite socialist comrades corbyn and co to take the realm reigns for as long as he and his ilk like? corbyn little 'c' deliberate.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

What does the 2017 tory manifesto say about the deal to leave the EU?

It says that they will ensure a smooth and orderly Brexit.

On this basis any Tory MP advocating no deal is reneging on the manifesto that they stood on in 2017. The undemocratic loons.

It says no deal is better than a bad deal ....

 

[Lever]

Democracy in the UK has been redefined to be more in keeping with EU norms (ignore the electorate if they give the wrong answer) .When has the losing side (that previously made clear this was a once in a lifetime choice) ever insisted democratic results aren't enacted and demand we all vote again?

If you are referring to the 'democratic' result of the referendum, I sympathise with your frustration but I am sure you will know that it was an extremely dodgy process with a very vague 'leaving' option. Now we know more, we must surely seek some way to ratify what we are doing. It is just too important to do otherwise.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Who’s the dictator then?

I’m willing to give it a go.

 

[The Rivet]

If you are referring to the 'democratic' result of the referendum, I sympathise with your frustration but I am sure you will know that it was an extremely dodgy process with very vague 'leaving' option. Now we know more, we must surely seek some way to ratify what we are doing. It is just too important to do otherwise.

Not what the Cameron leaflet said though or inferred.