[Politics] Brexit

[Herr Tubthumper]

That's because nobody knows what Brexit is yet apparently 'we' voted for it anyway. Still don't.

Brexit is Brexit.....do keep up

 

[The Clamp]

If Brexit doesn't scare you, you don't understand what Brexit is.

 

[Diego Napier]

Brexit is Brexit.....do keep up

According to Hammond, it's pronounced "Breeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeexit".

 

[Jim D]

If Brexit doesn't scare you, you don't understand what Brexit is.

Brexit doesn't scare me but the attitude of the EU does. At the start their approach was 'just get it done - invoke article 50 and let's get started'. Then their chief negotiator told us all there would only be a hard brexit - no other option was available. Now we're being told that there will be no discussion before we invoke article 50 - yet all along they're setting out their stall for us all to see. I can see that stall being toppled into the nearest ditch when negotiations start but until then it's being left there to scare us.
The EU know that they can't order us to hold another referendum like they did to Ireland but they're now trying to influence public opinion and scare us into a rethink. This approach will fail but I'm now of the opinion that we should be invoking art 50 asap.
Oh, and don't believe for a minute that all these legal challenges aren't EU inspired.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Brexit doesn't scare me but the attitude of the EU does. At the start their approach was 'just get it done - invoke article 50 and let's get started'. Then their chief negotiator told us all there would only be a hard brexit - no other option was available. Now we're being told that there will be no discussion before we invoke article 50 - yet all along they're setting out their stall for us all to see. I can see that stall being toppled into the nearest ditch when negotiations start but until then it's being left there to scare us.
The EU know that they can't order us to hold another referendum like they did to Ireland but they're now trying to influence public opinion and scare us into a rethink. This approach will fail but I'm now of the opinion that we should be invoking art 50 asap.

They're positioning themselves to get the best deal.....just like the uk. You need to understand two can, and will, play this game. Take your blinkers off.

 

[Jim D]

No, they're positioning themselves to get us to back off. Maybe they see that as the best deal but it's all the more reason why we should go for art 50 asap.

 

[Two Professors]

If Brexit doesn't scare you, you don't understand what Brexit is.

If you don't go to sleep soon,the Big,Bad,Brexit,Bogeyman will get you!(Or Breeeeeeee etc exit if you've got crap reception or a crap phone)

 

[Soulman]

Brexit doesn't scare me but the attitude of the EU does. At the start their approach was 'just get it done - invoke article 50 and let's get started'. Then their chief negotiator told us all there would only be a hard brexit - no other option was available. Now we're being told that there will be no discussion before we invoke article 50 - yet all along they're setting out their stall for us all to see. I can see that stall being toppled into the nearest ditch when negotiations start but until then it's being left there to scare us.
The EU know that they can't order us to hold another referendum like they did to Ireland but they're now trying to influence public opinion and scare us into a rethink. This approach will fail but I'm now of the opinion that we should be invoking art 50 asap.
Oh, and don't believe for a minute that all these legal challenges aren't EU inspired.

Correct Brexit is made out to be scary, the continual tactics, the doom and gloom.
The EU have proved how nasty they will / can be, they have set their stall out............do we really want to be part of their club, and it will get worse.....bail outs, countries struggling, prop ups, rules, wasted money.
Looking after our own economy etc is less scary than Remain imo.

 

[brighton fella]

No sane government would take us out of the single market, but it is a possibility. But it is not just whether they will be able to remain, it is also what their status will be if it is.
Will those here get a sort of dual nationality? A work visa? Do they have to make a choice, between becoming British citizens and losing citizenship of the EU, or leaving? Will they be entitled to benefits? What will happen if they go home for a year to look after a relative? If Calde wants to come back and coach in Brighton, will he be allowed back as he has spent so many years here, or does a year working elsewhere bar him? What happens when they reach retirement? If they need to use the NHS, will we be billing their home country? Can they use State schools? What happens if they lose their job? Can they claim benefits?

Mate you seriously need to chill you seem to be making up to many problems of your own ,.. almost as if you want it to be complicated.
Common sense should and most probably will apply to all of them... those that are legally here and who wish to remain here would become British citizens not EU citizens therefore they will have exactly the same rights as any other British citizen... i.e claiming NHS Benefits etc etc...as for the illegals their future in the land of handouts wont be so great ..most probably get sent packing who cares.. just as long as my tax bill is not propping them up for the indefinite future i couldn't care less.
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[yxee]

If Brexit doesn't scare you, you don't understand what Brexit is.

How many ways of patronising people can you find?

Maybe you're not as smart as you think you are

 

[brighton fella]

I'll leave this here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyLyjBykg8A

 

[Soulman]

If Brexit doesn't scare you, you don't understand what Brexit is.

Which reminds me.
l took two coach-loads of people who suffer with Anxiety and Paranoia to an xmas pantomime last night, it was all going great, then some idiot shouted,"he's behind you" then all hell let loose,

 

[brighton fella]

Which reminds me.
l took two coach-loads of people who suffer with Anxiety and Paranoia to an xmas pantomime last night, it was all going great, then some idiot shouted,"he's behind you" then all hell let loose,

And i wonder where this all of this anxiety and paranoia has originated from...

 

[Baldseagull]

Mate you seriously need to chill you seem to be making up to many problems of your own ,.. almost as if you want it to be complicated.
Common sense should and most probably will apply to all of them... those that are legally here and who wish to remain here would become British citizens not EU citizens therefore they will have exactly the same rights as any other British citizen... i.e claiming NHS Benefits etc etc...as for the illegals their future in the land of handouts wont be so great ..most probably get sent packing who cares.. just as long as my tax bill is not propping them up for the indefinite future i couldn't care less.
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Just trying to point out that there is more to it than just saying, they can stay. They have to have some sort of legal status, and if we do not have the current eligibility rules, we will need some new ones. I don't know why you think illegal immigrants are going to be easier to root out after we leave the EU?

 

[brighton fella]

Just trying to point out that there is more to it than just saying, they can stay. They have to have some sort of legal status, and if we do not have the current eligibility rules, we will need some new ones. I don't know why you think illegal immigrants are going to be easier to root out after we leave the EU?

Obviously we will need to set some new rules in place as to accommodate the legals, the illegals however would most likely be sent back to their country of origin,at the expense of the tax payer, or even worse case scenario we suffer our losses and grant them British citizenship .. , unfortunately that is the price you pay for having a soft government in the first place,

Hopefully there on after and once everything is achieved we can move on and start a fresh. toughen up by looking after our own interests first .for a change. no more being the mugs of this world. , . .

 

[Baldseagull]

Obviously we will need to set some new rules in place as to accommodate the legals, the illegals however would most likely be sent back to their country of origin,at the expense of the tax payer, or even worse case scenario we suffer our losses and grant them British citizenship .. , unfortunately that is the price you pay for having a soft government in the first place,

Hopefully there on after and once everything is achieved we can move on and start a fresh. toughen up by looking after our own interests first .for a change. no more being the mugs of this world. , . .

I'm still not getting the reason we need to leave the EU to be able to repatriate illegal immigrants, or how it will be any easier to do?

 

[sant andreu]

Won't it be fantastic once we've taken back control? Our great British government finally in complete control, free from those boring sensible Europeans... Yeah, that super govt responsible for Southern rail, and... The brilliant way schools are being run... The direction the NHS is heading...
Everything's going to be sweet!

 

[Soulman]

Won't it be fantastic once we've taken back control? Our great British government finally in complete control, free from those boring sensible Europeans... Yeah, that super govt responsible for Southern rail, and... The brilliant way schools are being run... The direction the NHS is heading...
Everything's going to be sweet!

We are in the EU at the moment, has "the sensible boring europeans" made a difference.

 

[5ways]

Well, I don't have a crystal ball, time machine or the ability to change the result of the 75 referendum but I believe we would have been overall better off if we'd stayed out. It may have been difficult at the start but we'd have made a better job of it than had we stayed in.

Wasn't around at the time but it is definitely true that the UK benefited from the standardisation, modernisation and competition that came with being a member of the EEC and later the Single Market. History shows that UK badly needed to dust away the cobwebs and Europe forced us to do that.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Won't it be fantastic once we've taken back control? Our great British government finally in complete control, free from those boring sensible Europeans... Yeah, that super govt responsible for Southern rail, and... The brilliant way schools are being run... The direction the NHS is heading...
Everything's going to be sweet!

And in March they'll be picking the best bits of the EU and scrapping the bits they don't like because they're in total control. Or maybe not.