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Paxton Dazo

Up The Spurs.
Mar 11, 2007
9,719
Absolute joke the girl should stay unnamed. She's made his life hell, and very nearly ruined his career.

Not right at all. :nono:
 




El Presidente

The ONLY Gay in Brighton
Helpful Moderator
Jul 5, 2003
39,957
Pattknull med Haksprut
Absolute joke the girl should stay unnamed. She's made his life hell, and very nearly ruined his career.

Not right at all. :nono:

She has been named. Everyone within 30-40 miles of Rhyl knows who she is. It's irrelevant whether people in Brighton, London or Newcastle know her name.
 














BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
18,045




portlock seagull

Well-known member
Jul 28, 2003
17,666
Absolute joke of an article. Tarring the whole of football with the actions of a minority. That coming from someone who's colleagues paid to hack the phone of a dead girl. Perhaps we should think of all journalists as lowlife like that. As for the comment about the PFA teams he wasn't convicted until 20th April that is certainly long after ballot papers were returned (the ceremony was only 2 days later). The vote is not by the PFA but by fellow professionals!

Blimey. You are angry!
 


BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
18,045
I'm actually starting to get sick of reading reports like this, by women, that don't know how the law operates in cases/trials like this.

Since reading Eggmodo's link that explains the legal reasons for using previous partners I see what your saying. Although reading the twitter posts from men who don't know how the law operates made me feel far more sick than her article.
 






Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
52,738
Goldstone
Absolute joke the girl should stay unnamed.
It's not a joke, it's important that women feel able to report rape, and anonymity is crucial to that.

She's made his life hell, and very nearly ruined his career.
I'm not too convinced by her actions, but I question the ability of the first jury more. I'm well aware they didn't have the extra witnesses, but that didn't change much.
 


Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
52,738
Goldstone
Don't forget, it wasn't her who accused Evans of rape, it was the Police/CPS.
Yeah, but she basically had to agree. For example, had she said that she does get forgetful after getting drunk, and it was possible that she hadn't been raped, and that yes, '**** me harder' does sound a bit like me, it would never have gone to court. But then she wouldn't have won big would she.
 


BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
18,045
Yeah, but she basically had to agree. For example, had she said that she does get forgetful after getting drunk, and it was possible that she hadn't been raped, and that yes, '**** me harder' does sound a bit like me, it would never have gone to court. But then she wouldn't have won big would she.

She has won big? How?
 




Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Yeah, but she basically had to agree. For example, had she said that she does get forgetful after getting drunk, and it was possible that she hadn't been raped, and that yes, '**** me harder' does sound a bit like me, it would never have gone to court. But then she wouldn't have won big would she.

Not forgetting that at the beginning she tweeted about spending lots of money, which was soon removed by her.
 




drew

Drew
NSC Patron
Oct 3, 2006
23,510
Burgess Hill

Yet another poor article which is quite selective. Ignore all the crap about twitter. You have to accept that morons will post shit because they think they are anonymous. The journalist seems to think that justice wasn't served here. I don't see anywhere that anyone is suggesting that the previous sexual activities of a complainant will preclude her from being raped or from making a complaint. This case was about a woman who couldn't remember what happened and the Police/CPS surmising from that that she was raped. I don't believe anyone can deny that new evidence shouldn't have been heard when you consider that, as I understand it, it suggested that the same words, same positions and same amnesia had occurred several times before (and in one case, even though she didn't remember what happened, she still had several other encounters with the same person).

The point is the new evidence doesn't prove he did not rape her (nobody will know that other than at least two of the people in the room, possibly all three) but it introduces a much greater element of doubt. I would suggest the journalist isn't interested in justice but is just taking a very one sided view of the whole affair.
 


Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
52,738
Goldstone
Yet another poor article which is quite selective.
It's just unbelievable. I'd understand if it was a red top, but the independent are publishing that shit.
 




Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Yet another poor article which is quite selective. Ignore all the crap about twitter. You have to accept that morons will post shit because they think they are anonymous. The journalist seems to think that justice wasn't served here. I don't see anywhere that anyone is suggesting that the previous sexual activities of a complainant will preclude her from being raped or from making a complaint. This case was about a woman who couldn't remember what happened and the Police/CPS surmising from that that she was raped. I don't believe anyone can deny that new evidence shouldn't have been heard when you consider that, as I understand it, it suggested that the same words, same positions and same amnesia had occurred several times before (and in one case, even though she didn't remember what happened, she still had several other encounters with the same person).

The point is the new evidence doesn't prove he did not rape her (nobody will know that other than at least two of the people in the room, possibly all three) but it introduces a much greater element of doubt. I would suggest the journalist isn't interested in justice but is just taking a very one sided view of the whole affair.

There seems to be a trend that if a rape conviction is overturned or an alleged rapist is acquitted, that it will deter women from reporting their own experience. It's a form of 'crusade'.
In reality, reports of rape are rising all the time.
 


Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
52,738
Goldstone
There seems to be a trend that if a rape conviction is overturned or an alleged rapist is acquitted, that it will deter women from reporting their own experience. It's a form of 'crusade'.
I can't comment on the trend, as I don't follow other cases, but that does seem to be the reaction of many regarding this case. Just because there wasn't sufficient (or indeed any) evidence in this case doesn't mean anything about other cases, it doesn't mean drunk women are fair game. It's just one case, with a unique set of circumstances.
 


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