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NooBHA

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Jan 13, 2015
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Originally Posted by BensGrandad View Post
Didnt realise that I thought it was great grandmother or similar in or around the time Jack Charlton was hunting but the point is HE was born and bred in Forest Gate the son of an Irish mother and Ghanian father. I believe that to qualify for a country it should be the country YOU are born in, not that it would do England cricket team any good. So I apologise for my mistake.

He was actually born in Poplar (hospital) but the rest is accurate
 


Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
72,015
There is some bullying going on in this thread, not attractive.
 




NooBHA

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Jan 13, 2015
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There is some bullying going on in this thread, not attractive.

I enjoy BG's posts..............Some of them are ''off the wall'' and a bit wacky but we all talk shit sometimes but on the whole I think his views are valid ones. Except the ones on Matt Derbyshire and J Lloyd Samuel
 




bobby baxter

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Jan 31, 2014
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I'm going with the faith I have in our recruitment team here. Gut feel says he's a touch overpriced (if these prices are correct.)

However, he's 6' 4", a decent footballer and at 24, fairly young for a centre back.

This all day long, how many recruitment mistakes has Hughton made?
 


Shins

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Aug 13, 2015
415
Anyway back to Duffy.

IF, the club are willing to spend 4million on a player they will know we are getting a good one. The player has had his head turned, even his manager has said so. This doesn't make him a bad player. If he wants a move here and he comes he'll get his head down and hopefully get back to form he showed last season and at the Euro's. Wasn't he in some of the statistical teams of the year last year? Couple of own goals and a sulk suddenly he's awful...
 


Postman Pat

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Jul 24, 2007
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Coldean
Hopefully it will be done tomorrow so he can try and get a training session in with his new team mates.

Best option under the circumstances for our hardest away game of the season.
 






GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
46,757
Gloucester
I enjoy BG's posts..............Some of them are ''off the wall'' and a bit wacky but we all talk shit sometimes but on the whole I think his views are valid ones. Except the ones on Matt Derbyshire and J Lloyd Samuel

So how many left backs do you think there should be in a Championship squad?
:)
 








Eeyore

Colonel Hee-Haw of Queen's Park
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Apr 5, 2014
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Didnt realise that I thought it was great grandmother or similar in or around the time Jack Charlton was hunting but the point is HE was born and bred in Forest Gate the son of an Irish mother and Ghanian father. I believe that to qualify for a country it should be the country YOU are born in, not that it would do England cricket team any good. So I apologise for my mistake.

Sorry BG, but I want to call you out on this one. It, perhaps unwittingly, would be quite upsetting for many folk who just happened not to enter this world within these borders.

Your post is a reflection of your own, probably inherited, discomfort as to what constitutes as English and what doesn't.

Only mercenaries cause me any discomfort when they represent the national team at sports I care for. This is simply because they care less for the 'flag' and more for their own careers. But to suggest that a person who came to these shores at a young age, and has grown up within our culture, should somehow be barred from receiving the highest sporting honour of representation is as ignorant as it is hideous.

What you haven't considered is the latent, probably unintended, racism in your suggestion. For what such a strategy does is single out people on the basis of an inconsequential act that they had no control over. It also potentially excludes them from representing the very culture and peoples that they most identify with. Under your system, if I was born in England, but raised in France and never since set foot on these shores, I could become a UK national in sporting terms. Yet someone in the opposite situation couldn't.

Note that I do not make assertions about your character when I post this, or imply that any racist undertones are intended. But I would ask you to put yourself in the shoes of someone who would be affected by such ideology. I'm sure you'll think again.
 
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ATFC Seagull

Aberystwyth Town FC
Jul 27, 2004
5,311
(North) Portslade
Sorry BG, but I want to call you out on this one. It, perhaps unwittingly, would be quite upsetting for many folk who just happened not to enter this world within these borders.

Your post is a reflection of your own, probably inherited, discomfort as to what constitutes as English and what doesn't.

Only mercenaries cause me any discomfort when they represent the national team at sports I care for. This is simply because they care less for the 'flag' and more for their own careers. But to suggest that a person who came to these shores at a young age, and has grown up within our culture, should somehow be barred from receiving the highest sporting honour of representation is as ignorant as it is hideous.

What you haven't considered is the latent, probably unintended, racism in your suggestion. For what such a strategy does is single out people on the basis of an inconsequential act that they had no control over. It also potentially excludes them from representing the very culture and peoples that they most identify with. Under your system, if I was born in England, but raised in France and never since set foot on these shores, I could become a UK national in sporting terms. Yet someone in the opposite situation couldn't.

Note that I do not make assertions about your character when I post this, or imply that any racist undertones are intended. But I would ask you to put yourself in the shoes of someone who would be affected by such ideology. I'm sure you'll think again.

This is a great post, on something that obviously I have very strong opinions on.
 




BensGrandad

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Jul 13, 2003
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Haywards Heath
It was never intended to appear racialist just a reflection of what I consider to be English and eligible to represent my country. In the flats in my block are Romanian, Latvian and a Bulgarian family who all have children and if they had a child who grew up to be a good sportsmen they could play for their mothers country as above or England where they were born 2 options. I was born and bred in England of English parents so have 1 option is that right and fair. If my mother was Welsh and my father a Scot then I would have 3 options for international honours. That cant be right surely.
 






spring hall convert

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Nov 3, 2009
9,608
Brighton
A bit of an exaggeration. How times change. A few years ago NSC thought the sun shone out of his backside.

I was never too far one way or the other. I think he's a decent player but one that isn't helped by the system we now play or the quality of players that have been bought to play his position.

I have never rated his heading though. He seems to struggle with coordination in general. And yes, it was a bit of an exaggeration.
 


BensGrandad

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Jul 13, 2003
72,015
Haywards Heath
So how many left backs do you think there should be in a Championship squad?

:)





As many as BG thinks is necessary.................................He has been put in charge of left back recruitment

Thanks for that we will sign Rico Henry based on your appraisal of him and then keep Sam and Gaetong until the end of the season then think again. Just ask West Ham for Burke on loan and n.no 10 from Vydra, Rhodes or Nugent either on loan or permanent with a view to having 1 season out of them then think again when we know which division we will be in next season
 


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