Syrian asylum-seeker with machete kills woman in southern Germany

[Psychobilly freakout]

Just put up a new thread covering this

http://news.sky.com/story/detonation-near-migration-office-in-germany-10514380

A "detonation incident" has been confirmed by police near a reception centre for migrants in Zirndorf, Germany.

Witnesses reported an explosion but police said in a statement that they had arrived at the scene to find a burning suitcase, at around 1.15pm UK time.

There was no indication that explosives were detonated and the fire may have been caused by a spray can inside the suitcase, they said.

On their official Twitter account, they added: "no explosion, no injuries".

The BR24 news website reported witnesses as saying several men ran away from the scene after the blast.

and it has now vanished, do we now have censorship on NSC ?

 

[carlzeiss]

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/refugee-accused-raping-79-year-old-woman-german-graveyard-1572805

 

[BadFish]

I don't ever recall having written that you think that there are no terrorist sympathisers around the world - why on earth do you come up with such rubbish?

You gave an example of sympathizers helping the IRA to demonstrate the validity of TB's post about terrorists having sympathisers. Why on earth would you bother unless you believed that i doubted TB's claims?

Your stance has always been that that the majority should not be punished/discriminated against for the sins of the minority.

Although i do believe this, it is not the point i was making. As I said in the post you quoted i was refuting the assertions that intolerance of anyone non-muslim and by extension jihad and potential terrorism are inherent in the Islamic faith

perhaps it would be better if you actually read and properly digest what others contribute

Perhaps you should take your own advice

rather than the all-too-quick one liners

.

You must have a ridiculously wide monitor or have trouble counting.

 

[pastafarian]

What any enemy of democracy wants is fear. Fear causes division. Division lets them in. Brexit, a decision based on confusion and fear has caused a huge divide, IS will be revelling in this. No surprise their attacks have stepped up since Brexit was voted in.

Jesus you have come out with some daft rubbish in your anti brexit rants but you have sunk to new lows here.
what on earth have the rise in attacks on mainland Europe got to do with Brexit.
Do you have any evidence in the slightest Britain voting leaving the EU justifies you saying "no surprise their attacks have stepped up since brexit"? what is the link between brexit and a rise in attacks?

Now, let's not get hysterical, or start fibbing. I didn't say it happened because of Brexit. I said attacks have stepped up since Brexit. The cracks are appearing..

and you said they are linked i.e. "no surprise their attacks have stepped up since brexit" try and remember what you wrote minutes earlier eh

I know you don't want to hear it. I wouldn't if I had voted leave.

you are right i dont want to hear an idiot say the attacks have risen since brexit because ISIS are revelling in the brexit decision,it lowers the whole discussion context of what we do against religious extremism to the level of moronic twit. This helps no one

It's not blood on their (voters) hands though. They did it in good faith

Ah we did it in good faith........Thanks for the generous forgiveness for being responsible for multiple deaths around europe ...........apparently.

There is a deluge of expert commentary addressing this very issue. It's all on the internet. Check it out. Don't just take my word for it.

Thank frack for facebook


Now what is more probable? There is no surprise attacks have risen since brexit because ISIS are revelling in the brexit decision " a decision based on confusion and fear "


or could it be abu muhammad al-adnani the official spokesperson of IS issued a statement in may this year urging followers to attack civilians in Europe if they couldnt travel to the battlezone.

Oh servants of Allah, Oh monotheists, if the tyrants have shut the doors of hijra [immigration to ISIS territories] in your face, then open the gate of jihad in their faces and make them regret their action. The smallest bit of work that you can carry out in their countries is far better and beloved to us than any major work [i.e. operations] here. [These operations] would be of much success and more harmful to them. Though anyone of you may wish and diligently seek to come to the Islamic State, any one of us would love to be in your place to inflict harm on the crusaders day and night without [needing] to sleep and terrorize them until neighbors are terrified of each other." Al-'Adnani also suggested that those who cannot carry out operations instead throw rocks inside "crusaders' houses."

http://www.memrijttm.org/isis-spoke...et-civilians-in-europe-us-during-ramadan.html



No seriously,what do you think is the most likely cause for an increace in attacks

1/ A well publicised instruction from Jihad central to increase attacks
or
2/ Your view ISIS is revelling in a Brexit vote.

seriously mate.......grow up!

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Out of interest, what aren't Muslims treated like gun owners? Islam and guns seem to both have the same potential to cause death and carnage going by news reports.

I mean someone shoots a bunch of people with a gun and there's an outcry for banning, severley restricting and more psychological testing in regards to gun ownership. All gun owners including the law abiding ones get demonised when this happens however and are portrayed as a potential danger to society. People who own guns sanity and character is openly questioned when they speak out against the anti-gun rhetoric.

Yet when a practioner of Islam kills a bunch of people they are only the tiny minority and the rest of the law abiding Muslims are apparently not people who should be demonised in any way nor viewed as potential dangers to the rest of society. The kind of mindset not afforded to gun owners.

Seems there's a fair bit of hypocrisy floating about given the most vocal anti-gun people are also the first ones to jump up and cry racism and Islamaphobia when anyone has a go at Islam.

 

[pastafarian]

Out of interest, what aren't Muslims treated like gun owners? Islam and guns seem to both have the same potential to cause death and carnage going by news reports.

I mean someone shoots a bunch of people with a gun and there's an outcry for banning, severley restricting and more psychological testing in regards to gun ownership. All gun owners including the law abiding ones get demonised when this happens however and are portrayed as a potential danger to society. People who own guns sanity and character is openly questioned when they speak out against the anti-gun rhetoric.

Yet when a practioner of Islam kills a bunch of people they are only the tiny minority and the rest of the law abiding Muslims are apparently not people who should be demonised in any way nor viewed as potential dangers to the rest of society. The kind of mindset not afforded to gun owners.

Seems there's a fair bit of hypocrisy floating about given the most vocal anti-gun people are also the first ones to jump up and cry racism and Islamaphobia when anyone has a go at Islam.

yeah.....bit mental.
is it because you are catholic?

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

yeah.....bit mental.
is it because you are catholic?

I'm a Pisces...

 

[The Clamp]

Jesus you have come out with some daft rubbish in your anti brexit rants but you have sunk to new lows here.
what on earth have the rise in attacks on mainland Europe got to do with Brexit.
Do you have any evidence in the slightest Britain voting leaving the EU justifies you saying "no surprise their attacks have stepped up since brexit"? what is the link between brexit and a rise in attacks?



and you said they are linked i.e. "no surprise their attacks have stepped up since brexit" try and remember what you wrote minutes earlier eh



you are right i dont want to hear an idiot say the attacks have risen since brexit because ISIS are revelling in the brexit decision,it lowers the whole discussion context of what we do against religious extremism to the level of moronic twit. This helps no one



Ah we did it in good faith........Thanks for the generous forgiveness for being responsible for multiple deaths around europe ...........apparently.



Thank frack for facebook


Now what is more probable? There is no surprise attacks have risen since brexit because ISIS are revelling in the brexit decision " a decision based on confusion and fear "


or could it be abu muhammad al-adnani the official spokesperson of IS issued a statement in may this year urging followers to attack civilians in Europe if they couldnt travel to the battlezone.

Oh servants of Allah, Oh monotheists, if the tyrants have shut the doors of hijra [immigration to ISIS territories] in your face, then open the gate of jihad in their faces and make them regret their action. The smallest bit of work that you can carry out in their countries is far better and beloved to us than any major work [i.e. operations] here. [These operations] would be of much success and more harmful to them. Though anyone of you may wish and diligently seek to come to the Islamic State, any one of us would love to be in your place to inflict harm on the crusaders day and night without [needing] to sleep and terrorize them until neighbors are terrified of each other." Al-'Adnani also suggested that those who cannot carry out operations instead throw rocks inside "crusaders' houses."

http://www.memrijttm.org/isis-spoke...et-civilians-in-europe-us-during-ramadan.html



No seriously,what do you think is the most likely cause for an increace in attacks

1/ A well publicised instruction from Jihad central to increase attacks
or
2/ Your view ISIS is revelling in a Brexit vote.

seriously mate.......grow up!

Grrrrrr, it's so annoying when someone's opinion differs to one's own, isn't it! You really do take outrage to a whole new level.

 

[JCL666]

Out of interest, what aren't Muslims treated like gun owners? Islam and guns seem to both have the same potential to cause death and carnage going by news reports.

I mean someone shoots a bunch of people with a gun and there's an outcry for banning, severley restricting and more psychological testing in regards to gun ownership. All gun owners including the law abiding ones get demonised when this happens however and are portrayed as a potential danger to society. People who own guns sanity and character is openly questioned when they speak out against the anti-gun rhetoric.

Yet when a practioner of Islam kills a bunch of people they are only the tiny minority and the rest of the law abiding Muslims are apparently not people who should be demonised in any way nor viewed as potential dangers to the rest of society. The kind of mindset not afforded to gun owners.

Seems there's a fair bit of hypocrisy floating about given the most vocal anti-gun people are also the first ones to jump up and cry racism and Islamaphobia when anyone has a go at Islam.

I give up

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

I give up

Me too.

Irrational fear of guns = the same as irrational fear of muslims

Yes?

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Jesus you have come out with some daft rubbish in your anti brexit rants but you have sunk to new lows here ........

seriously mate.......grow up!

Quite. I don't even think he really believes half the nonsense he posts. Just tries to see how far the boundaries can be pushed to provoke or perhaps thinks all this terrorism is a suitable topic for humorous exploitation.

A couple of people have already suggested it's an alternate account which rings true.

 

[Hastings gull]

Grrrrrr, it's so annoying when someone's opinion differs to one's own, isn't it! You really do take outrage to a whole new level.

I seem to recall you saying exactly the same yesterday about another post, who dared to disagree with you. Who is the common denominator here, when it comes to being annoyed at someone else's views?

 

[JCL666]

Me too.

Irrational fear of guns = the same as irrational fear of muslims

Yes?

I think you're trying to compare things that aren't comparable.


Although "irrational fear" is the same regardless whether it's spiders, jelly or clowns.

 

[The Clamp]

I seem to recall you saying exactly the same yesterday about another post, who dared to disagree with you. Who is the common denominator here, when it comes to being annoyed at someone else's views?

You?

 

[Hastings gull]

I think you're trying to compare things that aren't comparable.


Although "irrational fear" is the same regardless whether it's spiders, jelly or clowns.

I can understand your scepticism, as irrational fear of guns does seem to be different to an irrational fear of muslims. But to be fair to TB, he was thinking of public reaction, and to an extent he does have a point. After the murder of children in Dunblane, there was huge pressure, quite understandably, on gun owners and indeed on gun clubs - they should all be closed down etc etc. But all the mayhem was caused by one nutter. If a muslim terrorist were to explode something, say on the tube, there would also be uproar, but I think it a fair bet, that there would be far more vocal appeals in this case to the effect, that we must not blame the innocent majority.
Please don't misunderstand me -I am not one for one moment claiming that one incident is worse than another, and have absolutely no axe to grid - just a gut feeling that on balance the general reaction would be rather different, even though in both cases, one can clearly argue that the majority should not be punished for the sins of the minority. What do others think?

 

[Chief Wiggum]

Islam - the religion of peace.

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/site/about-site.aspx

 

[carlzeiss]

Islam - the religion of peace.

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/site/about-site.aspx

Very useful information , thanks for posting .

 

[Hastings gull]

Islam - the religion of peace.

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/site/about-site.aspx

Thanks. it is hard to argue against much of this and it is indeed alarming, though, sadly, not at all surprising. One saving grace, at least for us in Western Europe, is that most muslims are not motivated by the more violent side to Islam, and do see the advantages of living in a more tolerant society, not the least being, the cynic might argue, that they are in a minority. Were they ever to become a majority - would the same level of tolerance be applied, I wonder? Whilst we all accept that the violent tendencies appeal to only a minority, they and their tacit supporters are, nonetheless, a significant minority.

 

[carlzeiss]

Germany attacks: Merkel refuses to change refugee policy amid calls for crackdown after Isis-inspired killings

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...d-calls-for-crackdown-following-a7159926.html

 

[spence]

Germany attacks: Merkel refuses to change refugee policy amid calls for crackdown after Isis-inspired killings

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...d-calls-for-crackdown-following-a7159926.html

She has blood on her hands it's as simple as that. She can mince her words as much as she likes but she has failed the German people. It's her duty to protect them above everything else.That is her first point of call and not refugees

As she has already said previously. German people have to learn to live with terrorism.