Boris is NOT running

[ManOfSussex]

you keep on this election being called. i'll refer you to the Fixed-term Parliaments act 2011 and leave you reflect on where the government would get 190 extra votes to support the motion in sub-section 2. i by no means rule it out but seems highly unlikely unless enough Labour MPs are a mood to go full kamikaze.

Events dear boy........................

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Agree with you entire post. It's a strange day. I never thought I would ever be plumping for Theresa May. What has the world come to?

On your comment above. Agree this is a very likely outcome if the Tories aren't to tear themselves apart. And, when that happens, that's when the shit really will hit the markets fan. Right now, in the absence of Article 50 negotiations markets are hoping we stay in the single market. They're thinking, OK the UK has been stupid in leaving, but they aren't going to be really nuts and leave the single market. Are they? Are they?!

Could the result be disregarded?
Yes - in theory, at least. The referendum result is not legally binding and the government is under no legal obligation to follow through with its outcome. "The referendum is advisory rather than mandatory," says the Financial Times. "What happens next is therefore a matter of politics not law."
http://www.theweek.co.uk/brexit/73775/eu-referendum-is-the-brexit-result-legally-binding

 

[pb21]

Obviously as I'm British I'm not an expert though, so like the rest of us I don't know anything.

On the contrary, as our dear fellow Brexit friends have demonstrated it's the experts who don't know anything and the ordinary man on the street who does.

Paradoxically by not being an expert you actually are an expert. It's a bit like Schrodinger's cat; you are both an expert and a non expert at the same moment existing or possibly not.

 

[ManOfSussex]

On the contrary, as our dearfellow Brexit friends have demonstrated it's the experts who don't know anything and the ordinary man on the street who does.

Paradoxically by not being an expert you actually are an expert. It's a bit like Schrodinger's cat; you are both an expert and a non expert at the same moment existing or possibly not.

I see. It's rather like The Killers sang:

Are we human or are we dancer?
My sign is vital, my hands are cold
And I'm on my knees looking for the answer
Are we human or are we dancer?

 

[Baldseagull]

Where are all those that said Boris only went with Leave to further his career by going for PM. Egg on face.

I am here!
The problem for him is that leave won, and Cameron resigned too quickly.

 

[Wrong-Direction]

Dragging this saga out so it looks like politicians are actually doing something for a living.

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[ManOfSussex]

I am here!
The problem for him is that leave won, and Cameron resigned too quickly.

Boris would have got away with it if it wasn't for that meddling Cameron...........................

 

[sten_super]

I voted 'remain' but I never thought for a second that a 'leave' win was impossible though. I did however naively assume that we would just take The EEA route and the arrangements Norway have though. I'm living in blind hope of that scenario now in my opinion.

Obviously as I'm British I'm not an expert though, so like the rest of us I don't know anything.

I've swung between various 'most likely' scenarios over the past week. May this morning said that something needs to be done about immigration, which makes a pure EEA option unlikely IMO. At the moment I think it's most likely to be a "Norway lite" position where there's free trade of goods, but not services, with a cap on EU migration.

 

[vegster]

Now we hope that the Poison Dwarf does not get elected.

 

[Wrong-Direction]

Get your popcorn ready, this theatre could go on for some time..

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[pasty]

This whole sorry story since the result has just made me keep thinking of this. Could apply to any of them to be honest.

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[Gwylan]

you keep on this election being called. i'll refer you to the Fixed-term Parliaments act 2011 and leave you reflect on where the government would get 190 extra votes to support the motion in sub-section 2. i by no means rule it out but seems highly unlikely unless enough Labour MPs are a mood to go full kamikaze.

I've seen lots of references to snap elections on various forums and social media. I also point out the FTPA and ask how we're going to have a snap election. So far, no-one has an answer, apart from one joker who thought it would take about an hour to get a new Act through parliament.

I'm waiting for any coherent answer

 

[ManOfSussex]

I've swung between various 'most likely' scenarios over the past week. May this morning said that something needs to be done about immigration, which makes a pure EEA option unlikely IMO. At the moment I think it's most likely to be a "Norway lite" position where there's free trade of goods, but not services, with a cap on EU migration.

I agree with you. I think that the EEA option is the best scenario for the country though. From the point of view of simple practicality, such as the open border with The Republic of Ireland and presumably I hope, the desire for our citizens to be able to move freely in The EU and live there, I can't see how EU migration can realistically be controlled without drastic controls and changes though.

 

[Gwylan]

At the moment I think it's most likely to be a "Norway lite" position where there's free trade of goods, but not services, with a cap on EU migration.

I would have thought, if anything, it would be the other way round. It's the City and financial services that really want access to European markets. As I said the other day, the banks want the European passport and the indications are we'll only get that by signing up for free movement

 

[Blue3]

The Tories make Lucrezia Borgia look like a girl guide

 

[symyjym]

Article 50 still needs a parliamentary vote before our "unknown" future PM can trigger it.

At the moment we have no organised government and the opposition has left the building, which means we have an ineffective parliament who are not fit to vote on anything.

It's only been a week and we have entered the Twilight Zone, with the collapse of government not predicted by either campaigns. What a Larf

The only winners of all this will be the civil servants in UK and EU, with further £millions of political hours wasted on a red herring instead of concentrating on modernising the union.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

On the contrary, as our dear fellow Brexit friends have demonstrated it's the experts who don't know anything and the ordinary man on the street who does.

Paradoxically by not being an expert you actually are an expert. It's a bit like Schrodinger's cat; you are both an expert and a non expert at the same moment existing or possibly not.

Copied and pasted from Facebook, but it amused me.

So, let me get this straight... the leader of the opposition campaigned to stay but secretly wanted to leave, so his party held a non-binding vote to shame him into resigning so someone else could lead the campaign to ignore the result of the non-binding referendum which many people now think was just angry people trying to shame politicians into seeing they'd all done nothing to help them.

Meanwhile, the man who campaigned to leave because he hoped losing would help him win the leadership of his party, accidentally won and ruined any chance of leading because the man who thought he couldn't lose, did - but resigned before actually doing the thing the vote had been about. The man who'd always thought he'd lead next, campaigned so badly that everyone thought he was lying when he said the economy would crash - and he was, but it did, but he's not resigned, but, like the man who lost and the man who won, also now can't become leader. Which means the woman who quietly campaigned to stay but always said she wanted to leave is likely to become leader instead.

Which means she holds the same view as the leader of the opposition but for opposite reasons, but her party's view of this view is the opposite of the opposition's. And the opposition aren't yet opposing anything because the leader isn't listening to his party, who aren't listening to the country, who aren't listening to experts or possibly paying that much attention at all. However, none of their opponents actually want to be the one to do the thing that the vote was about, so there's not yet anything actually on the table to oppose anyway. And if no one ever does do the thing that most people asked them to do, it will be undemocratic and if any one ever does do it, it will be awful.

Clear?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Article 50 still needs a parliamentary vote before our "unknown" future PM can trigger it.

At the moment we have no organised government and the opposition has left the building, which means we have an ineffective parliament who are not fit to vote on anything.

It's only been a week and we have entered the Twilight Zone, with the collapse of government not predicted by either campaigns. What a Larf

The only winners of all this will be the civil servants in UK and EU, with further £millions of political hours wasted on a red herring instead of concentrating on modernising the union.

Whoever wrote Yes Minister/Prime Minister, was very astute.

 

[vegster]

Boris is biding his time again.

He knows that whomever is elected is a dead man or woman walking because of the single market and immigration issue. He's hoping they'll take the bullet and he can ride in on a charger after that. What a Machiavellian character he is.

If he runs now he won't get the job and he loses any chance of standing again, this is his only hope.

 

[ManOfSussex]

Article 50 still needs a parliamentary vote before our "unknown" future PM can trigger it.

At the moment we have no organised government and the opposition has left the building, which means we have an ineffective parliament who are not fit to vote on anything.

It's only been a week and we have entered the Twilight Zone, with the collapse of government not predicted by either campaigns. What a Larf

The only winners of all this will be the civil servants in UK and EU, with further £millions of political hours wasted on a red herring instead of concentrating on modernising the union.

I read in The Times yesterday that there are no more than 20 individuals in Whitehall with any experience of trade expertise needed for negotiating all these wonderful new free global trade deals we're going to have.