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Noheart



Puppet Master

non sequitur
Aug 14, 2012
4,056
Has gone off the boil a BIT recently but then he did start off by setting the bar massively high for himself. Maybe needs a game or two coming off the bench.
 




Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
72,015
He was one of our better players this evening. It didn't help when the ref allowed him to be kicked & battered without a single free kick for it.

The ref was abysmal and allowed Wednesday to rough up our players all over the pitch during the first half and then gave fouls against us that beggared believe. Games like that do not suit tricky wingers.
 


DFL JCL

Well-known member
Jan 8, 2016
834
Perhaps things didn't come off for him going forward last night, but from where i sit his work rate is excellent.. Noheart seems harsh. I suspect he is often trying a little too hard if anything.
 


Foolg

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Apr 23, 2007
5,024
Doubled up on last night, and again at Preston (was at both). When you've got Hemed up top who can't have run more than 50 yards last night, and Sidwell playing alongside you, there's not a lot of space to exploit. He was trying to force gaps which weren't there.

He's a winger, if he played how he did the first couple of games consistently he certainly wouldn't be playing for Brighton.
 


sydney

tinky ****in winky
Jul 11, 2003
18,162
town full of eejits
He was one of our better players this evening. It didn't help when the ref allowed him to be kicked & battered without a single free kick for it.

the screen shot on the match report by the bbc was of rosenior on the receiving end of what looked like a red card challenge......studs up , mid shin.......!!
 




Marshy

Well-known member
Jul 6, 2003
20,063
FRUIT OF THE BLOOM
Erm if you've watched the last few games he's given the ball away far more then he's passed it to one of our own

thats what happens when you have a player who is actually trying to create a chance and choose the tougher option in terms of passing.

He is in the side to create chances and play that key pass, not to pass it side ways and keep possesion.

On top of that he is now being doubled up against, its up to other players to make the most of that...
 


darkwolf666

Well-known member
Nov 8, 2015
8,238
Sittingbourne, Kent
personally thought he was playing too centrally as was Murphy. At times we really lacked width which is surprising when there are two out and out wingers on the pitch. AK was mustard first few games and has dipped a recently. Needs to pass it more.

Problem first half was Wednesday weren't that interested in attacking and just lumped the ball up to the big lad up front, who incidentally should have been sent off - would like to see the refs report for the booking!

They knew they could stifle our fast attacking players by not giving us space to run into, to not let us counter attack and catch them on the break.

By the second half we had run out of ideas and Wednesday started to attack more by which time we had lost the shape to expose the possible space that was generated, instead opting to lump the ball up front to our own big man BZ.

Game plan would have been complete if they had scored from one of there half chances second half, but all round it was an expert demonstration of tactics to negate our threats.

Someone said on here a couple of days ago that we don't have a Plan B - last night that was evident, or at best a flawed Plan B.
 


Skaville

Well-known member
Jun 10, 2004
10,372
Queens Park
It's the overhit passes that I struggle with. It seems to happen all the time.

The effort is there but he is consistently under performing at the moment and only having Lua Lua (no Skalak) on the bench meant Murphy had to swap flanks. I really like AK and he is a potential match winner but it's just not happening at the moment.
 




sussex_guy2k2

Well-known member
Jun 6, 2014
4,893
Two points.

1) I totally accept he didn't play very well last night. He's a flair player and they do sometimes have off days, he was doubled up on, the pitch was slippery and very slick making his brand of football difficult, and he was fed the ball in awful positions, meaning that he wasn't in situations to really make a telling attacking influence that often.

BUT...

2) Even with his poorer attacking performance (and all of our attackers and midfield were poor going forward last night), he's yet to put in a performance where he hasn't worked tirelessly defensively to help and protect Bruno. The notion that he has "noheart" is insulting to the guy who has clearly tried his hardest from day one for us, and it reflects quite badly on the OPs lack of football understanding that he can't see that. Both Murphy and Knockaert have probably the toughest roles in our side as they're required to do so much tactically - it really is no surprise when either has the odd off day offensively.

As a caveat, one of my main gripes with Hughton is his lack of desire to let either, or both, of Murphy or Knockaert off the leash a little by playing them right up against opposition full backs. The problems they could cause by staying high and wide could make such a difference to us offensively, if only Hughton was adventurous enough to take such a risk.
 


SIMMO SAYS

Well-known member
Jul 31, 2012
11,750
Incommunicado
Two points.

1) I totally accept he didn't play very well last night. He's a flair player and they do sometimes have off days, he was doubled up on, the pitch was slippery and very slick making his brand of football difficult, and he was fed the ball in awful positions, meaning that he wasn't in situations to really make a telling attacking influence that often.

BUT...

2) Even with his poorer attacking performance (and all of our attackers and midfield were poor going forward last night), he's yet to put in a performance where he hasn't worked tirelessly defensively to help and protect Bruno. The notion that he has "noheart" is insulting to the guy who has clearly tried his hardest from day one for us, and it reflects quite badly on the OPs lack of football understanding that he can't see that. Both Murphy and Knockaert have probably the toughest roles in our side as they're required to do so much tactically - it really is no surprise when either has the odd off day offensively.

As a caveat, one of my main gripes with Hughton is his lack of desire to let either, or both, of Murphy or Knockaert off the leash a little by playing them right up against opposition full backs. The problems they could cause by staying high and wide could make such a difference to us offensively, if only Hughton was adventurous enough to take such a risk.

Fair enough mate - my tongue in cheek thread was soon after the game and :drink: fuelled.

Just to let you know I have been watching the Albion for over forty five years man and boy :ohmy: and played for twenty two years so I know a little bit about football:)
 


alfredmizen

Banned
Mar 11, 2015
6,342
Fair enough mate - my tongue in cheek thread was soon after the game and :drink: fuelled.

Just to let you know I have been watching the Albion for over forty five years man and boy :ohmy: and played for twenty two years so I know a little bit about football:)
Well I'll have you know that I've watched football for over 45 years and played for 20 and know F**K ALL about football , all this tactical talk about players being too deep or wide has me well baffled :lolol:
 




hoveboyslim

Well-known member
Feb 7, 2004
584
Hove
Problem first half was Wednesday weren't that interested in attacking and just lumped the ball up to the big lad up front, who incidentally should have been sent off - would like to see the refs report for the booking!

They knew they could stifle our fast attacking players by not giving us space to run into, to not let us counter attack and catch them on the break.

By the second half we had run out of ideas and Wednesday started to attack more by which time we had lost the shape to expose the possible space that was generated, instead opting to lump the ball up front to our own big man BZ.

Game plan would have been complete if they had scored from one of there half chances second half, but all round it was an expert demonstration of tactics to negate our threats.

Someone said on here a couple of days ago that we don't have a Plan B - last night that was evident, or at best a flawed Plan B.


If Plan B was perfect wouldn't it be Plan A?
 


darkwolf666

Well-known member
Nov 8, 2015
8,238
Sittingbourne, Kent
If Plan B was perfect wouldn't it be Plan A?

Am I glad it is Plan B appears to be launching balls to the big centre forward and to be honest it shouldn't be considered as an option unless you have a Cf who is about 6ft 8 and you are going to give him balls worth his height!
 


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