Chris Gayle Fined

[Marshy]

I seem to remember Judy Murray perving over a tennis player time after time and Maria Sharapova did a similar thing in interview..... were they strung up for it ?

I have to admit i havent seen the Gayle one, its the way its said that tends to determine the outcome of these incidents....

 

[happypig]

But that would legitimise his behaviour.

"Don't let a woman interview her - he'll only harrass her..."

How about the more reasonable and professional "Chris - don't harrass her...?"

You're missing the point (or I'm not making it very well.) Saying "Chris, stop doing that" is all very well but, as has been pointed out, he's a serial offender. The TV company knew that (or should have) yet still put her in a position where it was possible for her to be made to feel uncomfortable. They should have either used a male interviewer or not interviewed him at all (or used a proper old boiler like Anne Widdicombe). That doesn't legitimise his behaviouir at all; doing nothing would legitimise it, saying to him "we're only going to get men to interview you because you have behaved badly in the past" does the opposite.

 

[El Presidente]

They should have used a proper old boiler like Anne Widdicombe.

That's a very sexist view of Anne Widdicombe though.


We've all cracked one off at her when she's been on Question Time haven't we? Or is it only me?

 

[Shropshire Seagull]

That's a very sexist view of Anne Widdicombe though.


We've all cracked one off at her when she's been on Question Time haven't we? Or is it only me?

Ha ! One for the other thread last week ....

Is there a link anywhere to the original interview - I can't pass any judgement till I've seen the evidence.

 

[The Albion Roar]

You're missing the point (or I'm not making it very well.) Saying "Chris, stop doing that" is all very well but, as has been pointed out, he's a serial offender. The TV company knew that (or should have) yet still put her in a position where it was possible for her to be made to feel uncomfortable. They should have either used a male interviewer or not interviewed him at all (or used a proper old boiler like Anne Widdicombe). That doesn't legitimise his behaviouir at all; doing nothing would legitimise it, saying to him "we're only going to get men to interview you because you have behaved badly in the past" does the opposite.

You're still making out that it's OK for women not to interview Chris Gayle because his behaviour won't make it appropriate. This is wholly unacceptable. The onus is on Gayle to behave himself. If he can't, and bearing in mind that he is contractually obliged to give interviews, the way to stop him giving interviews is to stop him playing. Then he's screwed.

Accepting his behaviour as a 'serial offender' and working it by, for example, having men only interview him legitimises his behaviour.

It's down to him to behave appropriately. It's really not that difficult to understand.

 

[deslynhamsmoustache1]

The saddest thing in all this is the ruination of stereotypical Aussie girl. A " your chins probably hit more balls than Ricky Pointing bat you f****** tosser" followed by a swift knee in the bollocks would of sufficed, 5k cheaper and good for the ratings to boot.

 

[DJ NOBO]

You're still making out that it's OK for women not to interview Chris Gayle because his behaviour won't make it appropriate. This is wholly unacceptable. The onus is on Gayle to behave himself. If he can't, and bearing in mind that he is contractually obliged to give interviews, the way to stop him giving interviews is to stop him playing. Then he's screwed.

Accepting his behaviour as a 'serial offender' and working it by, for example, having men only interview him legitimises his behaviour.

It's down to him to behave appropriately. It's really not that difficult to understand.

By some accounts Chris Gayle is a sleazy piece of work but to get offended by what he said in this interview is nuts. It was cringey and embarrassing but only mildly derogatory. get a grip

 

[Wrong-Direction]

I thought women like it when they get attention?

 

[dazzer6666]

And to then put it in the context of a pattern of behaviour. I mean Neroli Meadows works at Fox Sport in Australia, I'm assuming she's no stranger to a bit of old fashioned sexism and Chris Rodgers is a tough, gritty opening batsman who earned the respect of his fellow baggy greens. I strongly suspect that neither of these two fit the feminist, humus munching vibe particularly well. Their testimony is telling here.

A case of straw that broke the camel's back I suspect

In a nutshell. Gayle had this coming to him at some point, hope he's learned his lesson. He'll need to play at least another 5 overs to cover the fine.

 

[maltaseagull]

How can you ensure that you do not cause discomfort when trying trying to get a date with someone?

How about doing it offline?

 

[Gullflyinghigh]

By some accounts Chris Gayle is a sleazy piece of work but to get offended by what he said in this interview is nuts. It was cringey and embarrassing but only mildly derogatory. get a grip

I don't think many people are/were offended by it though. It's seemingly now the thing to be offended about people being offended, honestly, keeping up with trends these days is exhausting.

 

[El Presidente]

The world has gone f***ing mad , fined for a bit of harmless flirting

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I first read the OP's initial comment as 'fined for a bit of harmless fisting', which did seem an unusual thing to do for a post match interview, although given that the tournament is called the Big Bash perhaps not.

 

[Giraffe]

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Gotta love them double standards.

Women are treated like some special needs children these days.

Exactly his. If women want to be treated "equal" they need to man up. There are so many examples of sexism he other way hear days.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

By some accounts Chris Gayle is a sleazy piece of work but to get offended by what he said in this interview is nuts. It was cringey and embarrassing but only mildly derogatory. get a grip

Whilst I'm not personally outraged I can see why the reporter may have been. If I did the same thing to a female employee in a company meeting then I'd be, rightly, hauled over the coals. I'm currently involved in four formal grievences raised by women in my company against a male director for 'inappropriate behaviour' that many might file as harmless flirting - it's not fun for anyone involved and I have every sympathy for the women involved - they shouldn't have to put up with Gayle's or my directors behaviour in their workplace.

 

[nwgull]

I've just seem the video clip. Slightly awkward but harmless is how I'd describe it, as is he case when any man shows attraction towards a woman where it isn't reciprocated.

 

[Wilko]

Although on the face of it the fine may seem a bit excessive, it has had the effect of at least bringing his repeated behaviour into the spotlight, prior to which it went largely unnoticed. The effect of this will hopefully mean he will curb his behaviour in the future.
Also comparing flirty female reporters' with such behaviour is not really relevant. Women do not generally pose a physical or sexual threat to men so men are less likely to feel intimidated by their flirting. There's nothing wrong with a harmless bit of flirting if you are picking up on the signals and reciprocating accordingly but to just come out with such unsolicited comments is totally inappropriate and understandably a woman could feel uncomfortable. Men should be aware of that, especially those who wield a certain amount of power like sportsmen and other celebrities, because then it just becomes an abuse of the position and admiration they hold in peoples' eyes. Such behaviour can easily escalate into something far more malevolent if left unchallenged as the many instances of male celebrity abuses can testify. At least this fine might have nipped something in the bud if nothing else.

While I agree with you to some degree I think this whole attitude opens real can of worms. It comes from the starting point that all men pose a physical and sexual threat to women, something I detest, the whole radical feminist mantra of 'all men are potential rapists' is disgusting in my opinion. It is as narrow minded as assuming all Muslims are terrorists.

We seem to be left with a society view that a male who approaches a woman, goes on the pull, visually checks out a woman etc is some kind of sexual predator which is simply not the case.

A female friend of mind said this last week 'So, I was in tesco and this guy was checking me out, as I was leaving the shop he came and introduced himself and asked if he could take me out for a drink, what a creepy perv'

What really, really disturbs me about this is that his actions are seen as both creepy and perverted*. Surely this is just normal behaviour? If he was masturbating under a mac then sure but we are talking about a guy approaching a woman and asking her for a drink.


* I am not saying that what Gayle did was acceptable by the way, it is just the reactions of 'creep'. 'pervert, 'sexual predator' and 'rapist' that just get thrown around which are way OTT

 

[mikeyjh]

I've just seem the video clip. Slightly awkward but harmless is how I'd describe it, as is he case when any man shows attraction towards a woman where it isn't reciprocated.

Yes, and if he'd done this off camera, (after work), and maybe in a less sleazy way all would be fine. But he didn't, he ignored her professional approach and belittled her with a 'joke'.

 

[nwgull]

Yes, and if he'd done this off camera, (after work), and maybe in a less sleazy way all would be fine. But he didn't, he ignored her professional approach and belittled her with a 'joke'.

He didn't belittle her; it was complimentary and wasn't sleazy.

 

[colonies man]

Might not be a problem but I thought everyone in and out of cricket knew what a waste of space Gayle is.

 

[mikeyjh]

Might not be a problem but I thought everyone in and out of cricket knew what a waste of space Gayle is.

Yes, but that's an hypocrisy of sport isn't it - Cristiano Ronaldo is an ar*e but that doesn't stop him being a great footballer, likewise Gayle (not 'great' but very good).