Yet more demands for special treatment from muslims

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I like you DR ,tell em how it is !, I agree ,my sister had a BF in Aston Birmingham ,said there was muslim only areas ,WTF!!!

Same as Luton then. People should live in or around these areas and then come back with their opinions afterwards. You either like it or hate it.
I don't want it down here because it eventually change the areas that you live in and people would eventually sell up and leave.
 


cunning fergus

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Same as Luton then. People should live in or around these areas and then come back with their opinions afterwards. You either like it or hate it.
I don't want it down here because it eventually change the areas that you live in and people would eventually sell up and leave.


You will need to get used to it...........

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/rel...-children-in-Britain-doubles-in-a-decade.html

At this rate by the time we are dead we will all be buried in Muslim cemeteries.

Enjoy bacon while it is still widely available.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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I don't want it down here because it eventually change the areas that you live in and people would eventually sell up and leave.

A changing world...whatever next?
 


cunning fergus

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A changing world...whatever next?


Indeed, the underlying question is that change for the better or worse?

Frankly, no one can answer that yet either, we need to come back in say 25 years.

If however we go back 25 years or so, and consider the prevailing situation with Islam now in comparison is it better or worse?

That at least gives us a trend line to follow.............
 






Green Cross Code Man

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Indeed, the underlying question is that change for the better or worse?

Frankly, no one can answer that yet either, we need to come back in say 25 years.

If however we go back 25 years or so, and consider the prevailing situation with Islam now in comparison is it better or worse?

That at least gives us a trend line to follow.............
That is a very good point. I count Muslims as my friends but on the whole, the enormous conflict of cultures is in my opinion very damaging and indeed dangerous to our society. It has seen a rise in terrorism on our soil and also an unfortunate backlash will inevitably happen with the far right picking up momentum.
 


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Soulman

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That is a very good point. I count Muslims as my friends but on the whole, the enormous conflict of cultures is in my opinion very damaging and indeed dangerous to our society. It has seen a rise in terrorism on our soil and also an unfortunate backlash will inevitably happen with the far right picking up momentum.

Good post except that the people that are fed up are not all far right, no where near. Let's say the Liberals are the only left wing party out there, well their support has plummeted, could that be because more voters are worried about the issues that you mentioned.
 


BigGully

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That is a very good point. I count Muslims as my friends but on the whole, the enormous conflict of cultures is in my opinion very damaging and indeed dangerous to our society. It has seen a rise in terrorism on our soil and also an unfortunate backlash will inevitably happen with the far right picking up momentum.


I agree with nearly all of your points except for the last bit.

Many when offering a wholly reasonable views on the lack of western Muslim integration and its effects, then nearly always feels obliged to counter it with a 'rise in the extreme right'.

Accepting this perhaps is happening in Europe for many reasons, I actually do not see it here, I see a belated rally from the out of touch main parties on immigration and a more narrow and sharper view on immigration and its consequences from UKIP, but these are not far right wing.

Nor should those supporting them be classed as such, there is just an inevitable view that those Muslims that seem to have an unbreakable loyalty and empathy with an unknown Muslim 1000's of miles away seem to struggle to offer anything similar to a community of a different faith just around the corner.
 


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A changing world...whatever next?

I respect you as a poster HT, however you have got it wrong on this one. To dismiss my comments as somehow being ignorant is wrong, it is one of the sole reasons our own politicians have failed badly in this area.
 






Soulman

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I agree with nearly all of your points except for the last bit.

Many when offering a wholly reasonable views on the lack of western Muslim integration and its effects, then nearly always feels obliged to counter it with a 'rise in the extreme right'.

Accepting this perhaps is happening in Europe for many reasons, I actually do not see it here, I see a belated rally from the out of touch main parties on immigration and a more narrow and sharper view on immigration and its consequences from UKIP, but these are not far right wing.

Nor should those supporting them be classed as such, there is just an inevitable view that those Muslims that seem to have an unbreakable loyalty and empathy with an unknown Muslim 1000's of miles away seem to struggle to offer anything similar to a community of a different faith just around the corner.

Spot on.
 


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Nor should those supporting them be classed as such, there is just an inevitable view that those Muslims that seem to have an unbreakable loyalty and empathy with an unknown Muslim 1000's of miles away seem to struggle to offer anything similar to a community of a different faith just around the corner.

Muhammad always intended to conquer Rome and Constantinople so if his followers get to the Vatican maybe the Catholic lot over here will rally and **** off over there.
 






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I'm not sure it is worth arguing about this, because you seem incapable of coherent thought or of sensible discussion without resorting to pathetic insults. I suggest you try reading the original article and my post again, and try to understand them, and some of the other sensible people on here.
ive read the original article and ive just reread your post , i stand by everything ive said to you , you literally sicken me with your insipid comments and constant droning on about sensitivity , you were probably neville chamberlaibn in a previous life , you and people like you wont be happy until the character and make up of this country is totally and utterly changed , you'll be sorry then but it'll be too late quisling.
 


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It was reported today the Muslim population in the UK in the last decade has gone from 1.1m to 2.7m
 








ThePompousPaladin

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A changing world...whatever next?

There's a certain type of small mindedness that is never going to be comfortable with change.

The problem occurs when these people irrationally categorise and conflate a debate about a burial plot with terrorism and wider issues.

The danger is this can cause real rifts in a society that as a whole is becoming closer and more united, all because of some small minded, simplistic idiots (on both sides) that let their inherent bigotry get in the way of the real issues that surround integration.

It's happened in previous generations with Jews, blacks, irish, huguenots etc.
You would have thought that these people would be able to look at history and put aside their irrational fears. I guess that their fear and hatred does put some positive pressure on integration, but on the whole i think ironically it does more damage than help.
 


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