Paul Samrah

[Not Andy Naylor]

Indictment of our present direction? Forgive me if I've misunderstood but we're enjoying our 3rd consecutive year in the second tier, the last two years of which have been in play-off positions.

And seeing as this thread is about Samrah's comments about playing strategy and performances just how would closer involvement with the club improve that? Are you suggesting Samrah should have a say in who plays where and under what system?

I don't think you've misunderstood at all - you're just pretending that you have.

 

[herecomesaregular]

That's a point of view that can get people into terrible trouble.

I do hope we're not in tewwible twubble.

 

[DarrenFreemansPerm]

Indictment of our present direction? Forgive me if I've misunderstood but we're enjoying our 3rd consecutive year in the second tier, the last two years of which have been in play-off positions.

And seeing as this thread is about Samrah's comments about playing strategy and performances just how would closer involvement with the club improve that? Are you suggesting Samrah should have a say in who plays where and under what system?

We're in our 4th year in The Championship, you're forgiven.

 

[Buzzer]

I don't think you've misunderstood at all - you're just pretending that you have.

I think it's time you and the other DK flag-wavers wake up to the fact that the club has had to change its relationship with the fans since moving to the Amex. We're not on a war-footing anymore. Tony Bloom wants success for the Albion and its fans every bit as much as DK he just has different opinions on how to achieve it and how he wants the club and fans to interact. I'm sorry he's not chummy enough with a certain group of fans for your liking but your default interpretation of the reasons for this and that most things are going to sh*t does come across like sour grapes.

 

[Buzzer]

We're in our 4th year in The Championship, you're forgiven.

Christ, is it the 4th consecutive year? What a terrible indictment of our present direction.

 

[spanish flair]

We're in our 4th year in The Championship, you're forgiven.

Worrying fact on it's own that, we always get relegated when we are in our fourth season, when in the top two divisions. I was really hoping we would break this hoodoo this season, but it is not looking promising.

 

[Barham's tash]

All in my opinion, and totally unfounded of course!

There does seem to be a bit of control mania from those in high places. Just remember to eat more pies etc

For 'control mania' I read as professionalism. PB is hear as a CEO to run a successful BUSINESS, which I believe the figures in the accounts will show he's had a positive impact on.

Like it or not - you clearly don't - this club has to change to meet FFP, and in turn try to have the best platform to reach the Premier League. Ultimately that's the be all and end all of it.

Some fans will resent being treated more like customers, others will be indifferent to it (I'm in this camp) but the one thing none of us should be is naive of the reality. Football is a non sustainable business at any level. There are NO profitable clubs in the upper echelons of the domestic league simply as a result of turnover from gate receipts and stadium match day sales therefore to stand a chance of increasing our competitiveness on the pitch we have to take these big commercial decisions off it.

PB isn't here to win a popularity contest he's here to make the good ship Albion run a hell of a lot better from a commercial perspective.

 

[fosters headband]

For 'control mania' I read as professionalism. PB is hear as a CEO to run a successful BUSINESS, which I believe the figures in the accounts will show he's had a positive impact on.

Like it or not - you clearly don't - this club has to change to meet FFP, and in turn try to have the best platform to reach the Premier League. Ultimately that's the be all and end all of it.

Some fans will resent being treated more like customers, others will be indifferent to it (I'm in this camp) but the one thing none of us should be is naive of the reality. Football is a non sustainable business at any level. There are NO profitable clubs in the upper echelons of the domestic league simply as a result of turnover from gate receipts and stadium match day sales therefore to stand a chance of increasing our competitiveness on the pitch we have to take these big commercial decisions off it.

PB isn't here to win a popularity contest he's here to make the good ship Albion run a hell of a lot better from a commercial perspective.

Interesting that he told the fans that last year we were losing an un sustainable £8 million, now he stating it's £12 mill, so yes I can see the positive impact he is having.
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[Lincoln Imp]

That's a point of view that can get people into terrible trouble.

I think it's time you and the other DK flag-wavers wake up to the fact that the club has had to change its relationship with the fans since moving to the Amex. We're not on a war-footing anymore. Tony Bloom wants success for the Albion and its fans every bit as much as DK he just has different opinions on how to achieve it and how he wants the club and fans to interact. I'm sorry he's not chummy enough with a certain group of fans for your liking but your default interpretation of the reasons for this and that most things are going to sh*t does come across like sour grapes.

I'm really confused now because I haven't seen anyone in this thread waving DK's flag. In fact, the only people who have seriously mentioned him are his detractors. It is such a shame when discussions are turned into black and white slanging matches; when any criticism of the present arrangements are seen as some sort of propaganda message on behalf of Dick. It's all a bit silly.

 

[reigate]

Interesting that he told the fans that last year we were losing an un sustainable £8 million, now he stating it's £12 mill, so yes I can see the positive impact he is having.
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Has he not already covered this? £12m was total operating loss, while £8m was loss allowable under ffp rules, which are very different

 

[London Irish]

I think it's time you and the other DK flag-wavers wake up to the fact that the club has had to change its relationship with the fans since moving to the Amex. We're not on a war-footing anymore. Tony Bloom wants success for the Albion and its fans every bit as much as DK he just has different opinions on how to achieve it and how he wants the club and fans to interact. I'm sorry he's not chummy enough with a certain group of fans for your liking but your default interpretation of the reasons for this and that most things are going to sh*t does come across like sour grapes.

Always makes me laugh when Buzzer wakes up on the wrong side of the bed

 

[Buzzer]

Always makes me laugh when Buzzer wakes up on the wrong side of the bed

You're as bad at judging moods as ever. I'm in fine fettle, you're clearly spoiling for a fight. Sorry I can't oblige. You could try a thread about Israel and hope for someone there to abuse. I hope you get it all out your system.

 

[Barham's tash]

Interesting that he told the fans that last year we were losing an un sustainable £8 million, now he stating it's £12 mill, so yes I can see the positive impact he is having

Oh the classic politicians comment for not seeing the wood for the trees.

The increase in the loss ytd has been predominantly due to items that we are able to off set against FFP and therefore don't count. We've brought several of these forward to get the maximum use of them, as I understand it.

But, as ever, football in all its guises will remain an opinion driven sport, and thats the beauty of it.

 

[London Irish]

You're as bad at judging moods as ever. I'm in fine fettle, you're clearly spoiling for a fight. Sorry I can't oblige. You could try a thread about Israel and hope for someone there to abuse. I hope you get it all out your system.

That's as lovely as a basket of kittens *mwah*

Do I fancy a fight with conspiracy theorising that says there is anti-Bloom evil emanating out of Dick Knight, then being spread like a virus by Samrah and now infecting the good offices of our tame national newspaper hack on here. Thinking about it, nah, you carry on

 

[Eeyore]

Worrying fact on it's own that, we always get relegated when we are in our fourth season, when in the top two divisions. I was really hoping we would break this hoodoo this season, but it is not looking promising.

Unnervingly correct. Although I think you should put your chin up, we shouldn't be relegated this year. It would still be a surprise.

If we do survive this year, then the period becomes the second most successful in our history.

 

[Guinness Boy]

I also took issue with the tone of Paul Barber's programme notes, thankfully I will have a platform in my newspaper column to respond to them on Thursday.

I buy a programme for my son every home game (good fan) and he normally has it straight off me, analysing squad numbers, looking at the kids corner, puzzles and quizzes and asking questions about the opposition. The next time I normally see it is on his bedroom floor about four days later whereupon I file it. A long way of saying I always buy a programme but never read it. Having just read this post by you i retrieved it from behind the X Box and read his column. It certainly shows some front to post a series of long explanations on a message board and then use the club programme to attack anyone who didn't agree. I think he's right in most of what he says but the way he says it, not classy at all.

 

[fosters headband]

Has he not already covered this? £12m was total operating loss, while £8m was loss allowable under ffp rules, which are very different

http://notworththat.wordpress.com/2...g-and-why-the-club-does-value-its-supporters/

This is the article where he sated in June 2013 that our loses were in excess of £8 million and nowhere in the article can I see where he states this to be an ffp figure.

NOTWORTHAT: Then, with respect, how is the club still losing money despite a season of record attendances, high ticket prices, massive merchandising sales etc? It is difficult for the fans to understand. They pay a lot for tickets, buy merchandise, come in record numbers, buy pies and pints etc but still hear the club is losing money.

Paul Barber: Very few football clubs make money. Most operate at a loss, even in the Premier League. There are many reasons for this. We are losing well in excess of £8m a year. Clearly, investment in players and in other football areas accounts for a large proportion of any club’s costs. We are no exception

Perhaps I have missed this in the article and I am happy to have where he say's this in the interview pointed out to me.

 

[Guinness Boy]

http://notworththat.wordpress.com/2...g-and-why-the-club-does-value-its-supporters/

This is the article where he sated in June 2013 that our loses were in excess of £8 million and nowhere in the article can I see where he states this to be an ffp figure.

NOTWORTHAT: Then, with respect, how is the club still losing money despite a season of record attendances, high ticket prices, massive merchandising sales etc? It is difficult for the fans to understand. They pay a lot for tickets, buy merchandise, come in record numbers, buy pies and pints etc but still hear the club is losing money.

Paul Barber: Very few football clubs make money. Most operate at a loss, even in the Premier League. There are many reasons for this. We are losing well in excess of £8m a year. Clearly, investment in players and in other football areas accounts for a large proportion of any club’s costs. We are no exception

Perhaps I have missed this in the article and I am happy to have where he say's this in the interview pointed out to me.

No it's clever wording by a good politician. £8.4 million is well in excess of 8 million but so is 12 million, 25 milliion and for that matter the GDP of China.

 

[Barnham Seagull]

For 'control mania' I read as professionalism. PB is hear as a CEO to run a successful BUSINESS, which I believe the figures in the accounts will show he's had a positive impact on.

Like it or not - you clearly don't - this club has to change to meet FFP, and in turn try to have the best platform to reach the Premier League. Ultimately that's the be all and end all of it.

Some fans will resent being treated more like customers, others will be indifferent to it (I'm in this camp) but the one thing none of us should be is naive of the reality. Football is a non sustainable business at any level. There are NO profitable clubs in the upper echelons of the domestic league simply as a result of turnover from gate receipts and stadium match day sales therefore to stand a chance of increasing our competitiveness on the pitch we have to take these big commercial decisions off it.

PB isn't here to win a popularity contest he's here to make the good ship Albion run a hell of a lot better from a commercial perspective.

It's not about being professional, that should be a given.

It's bad decisions at a football level made by the management of the club in the last 18 months I don't like and the constant eat more pies buy an orange shirt all the time we are devalui9ng the squad and product on the pitch which in turn will result in a financial disaster if we half our gates.

 

[fosters headband]

No it's clever wording by a good politician. £8.4 million is well in excess of 8 million but so is 12 million, 25 milliion and for that matter the GDP of China.

In which case how are we fans to believe anything he says?