It was meant as a rhetorical question ... I've had direct dialogue with PB on other matters as well as questions at forums. My issue still remains
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It was meant as a rhetorical question ... I've had direct dialogue with PB on other matters as well as questions at forums. My issue still remains
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No need "to bite" - I'm assuming this is a civilised discussion.
I'm sure our scouts did talk to those they needed to, but the worry is that Baldock was the cheaper option in this instance. I've seen estimates of 3 million for Wilson and what would you say for Baldock, 1 and a half-ish?
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Ha ! just a turn of phrase
I've no idea if Wilson was a target. He might well have been. Not the sort of striker we were after. Maybe . But cheaper than Baldock ? V.unlikely.
And agreed we've missed out on targets recently due to our budgets. Grabban, Clayton. More for the wages rather than the fee mind.
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Ha ! just a turn of phrase
I've no idea if Wilson was a target. He might well have been. Not the sort of striker we were after. Maybe . But cheaper than Baldock ? V.unlikely.
And agreed we've missed out on targets recently due to our budgets. Grabban, Clayton. More for the wages rather than the fee mind.
Actually a good turn of phrase
But I can't see how you think it's very unlikely. Multiple press reports for Wilson clearly point to 3m - it's more murky for Baldock sure but you are surely not saying we spent anywhere near that figure? And nor should we have for this particular player.
- Jun 27, 2012
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Actually a good turn of phrase
Multiple press reports for Wilson clearly point to 3m
"a loaded deal that is understood to see City get £2.25m up front." via http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sp...ews/coventry-city-callum-wilson-joins-7375654 also included loans out as part of the deal...
although it does say that add-ons would mean up to £3m...goals/appearances/promotion presumably...
Baldock "close to £2m" via http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/Sale-S...City-close-2/story-22849512-detail/story.html
Expect add-ons part of the deal.
Both are long term contracts so value of the contracts would be substantial and probably similar.
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Sami was under pressure from day one
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We're getting bogged down in micro detail here perhaps, so last one from me on this - but I am at a loss to understand how a 3m deal with add-on is similar to a close to 2m deal with add ons?
It seems to me we didnt want to get involved in an auction for Wilson with Bmuff/Norwich for Wilson, (similar with Grabban situation before), so ended up taking a lesser player who was unlikley to attract such interest in Baldock, hence the narrative about lack of ambition.
Can I just say at this point I'd love Baldock to get 10 before Xmas - but my entirely fallible guess is that he won't get anywhere near that and will leave us having to start this process all over again in Jan window.
Is there evidence anywhere at all that suggests Wilson was someone we had any interest in, would pursue, may pursue, did pursue or gave up at some point due to expected cost? You're just hypothesising, which is fair enough, but it's no more than that. You may be right or you may be completely wrong but you you seem to be extrapolating this unsubstantiated guess to illustrate a lack of ambition. That doesn't stack up, not by a long chalk.
All I can add to the Wilson debate is it a name I never heard mentioned by any of the people I know who tend to know about these things. Again, that doesn't illustrate anything, but I'm not going to say that we failed to land a player due to, essentially, lack of ambition.
£550 for my s/t, so say £575 for next season. I will probably carry on, but know a few who are calling it quits at the end of this season - reasons given - the cost for them and their kids they consider are getting out of control out of a family budget, the decline in squad quality and results, and the hassle of several hours from door to door in watching an Amex game with the transport involved.
Despite their undoubted intelligence, business acumen and articulation, I doubt that TB and PB are aware that many s/t holders feel like that. They can be too positive in your outlook, too 'American' (eg the "match-day experience" waffle), but in fact be burying their heads in the sand on real fans issues.