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"To be around players like us may be a life-changing experience for them"







Stat Brother

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Some people are determined to moan and bitch about ANYTHING. Have our lives and our society really become this sad?
But what would they say to Mr Lallana if they were to meet him in person?
 










Mellotron

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drew

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Oct 3, 2006
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Looks like a lot of people jumped to the wrong conclusion! Probably the same with the Beckham trip, selective editing by the producers may be?
 






Giraffe

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I think this thread is overly harsh on Lallana and Beckham.

Both seem like decent guys for footballers to me.

Ashley Cole on the other hand......
 


HawkTheSeagull

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Can understand the sentiment from Lallana, but he has completely worded it wrong. At least the footballers are actually making an effort to see those less fortunate, almost raising a profile on how the other half live in Rio.

Of course, we need a scandal of sorts before a major tournament for England, expect this to be on the front pages of the papers tomorrow even though its just a small cock-up in wording.
 


Garry Nelson's Left Foot

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It can't be true. Everything English is bad and everything German is good. You KNOW this. Come on.

Yes, you're right, I should know this. So there is almost definitely an innocent explanation. Maybe he is angling for a move to the premier league so is doing his best to adopt the cultural norms of the English?
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Gregory2Smith1

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I don't know with this guy,had a great season with Soton off to a bigger club,might be wrong but get the impression he thinks his billy big bollocks already

funny thing is,take his photo into an average Brazilian school and no one would be able to name him
 


drew

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Oct 3, 2006
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I don't know with this guy,had a great season with Soton off to a bigger club,might be wrong but get the impression he thinks his billy big bollocks already

funny thing is,take his photo into an average Brazilian school and no one would be able to name him


Perhaps you should read up on him then. Has spent 8 years with Soton playing from the third tier upto the premiership. At 26 has played 235 games for them and 48 goals. He is now playing for England and may have a shot at playing for a club in the Champions League yet you begrudge him that. Far better what he has done than some of these 'billy big bollocks' overseas players who sign for numerous clubs purely for the money.
 




Creaky

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I suppose you have to forgive this guy being a Palace fan when you read what he has managed to achieve in the Rio Favela

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup-2014/meet-hero-brit-who-single-handedly-3663271

He's been the only Brit in the favela for 33 years - and Bob Nadkarni has changed the lives of all its residents thanks to his extraordinary courage.
This 70-year-old grandad and son of a London vicar is a real hero to the people of Tavares Bastos, which used to be one of the most dangerous areas in Rio de Janeiro.

It was plagued by dozens of murders, drugs wars and corrupt policemen.
But Bob single-handedly changed all that, and there has not been a single murder in the favela since 2000.
There are also no drugs gangs and no guns
 




KneeOn

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Jun 4, 2009
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Maybe i've interpreted this wrong but... surely spending time with a bunch of professional footballers when you spend time in abject poverty as a kid might be life changing? Isn't that sort of the reason for high profile athletes, artists etc do these things? To inspire and change lives - i don't see any harm in what he's said. he's not said it will definately be life changing for all of them just that being around footballers who are successful and playing on the world stage in their territory after a season of playing in the most broadcast football league in the world might have a positive, life changing influence on these kids.

Does it sound arrogant? Maybe, if you put emphasis on specific words.

Typical bollocks English media trying to create a story where there is none even if its potentially toxic and typical ****ing England fans who are first to moan about our team, first to moan about our media who moan about our team then moan about our team them selves moaning that the media isn't moaning enough - so much moaning its a shit porn flick.
 


KneeOn

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Also, unless the word "us" has changed in meaning, the ***** who are extrapolating that he meant "by meeting me, the best person to have graced a ball" should check what the semantics of the sentence are. The "us" implies the collective England team who have got a claim to represent that game we invented.. what is it again? Oh yeah, the one about to be watched by millions or even billions of people this summer. SO yeah, meeting the England team, one of the most historic and famous teams (if not most successful, granted) is pretty special. As AL said, its humbling being not only a part of that historic team but being able to meet people who have our country (partially) to thank for their passion and who have very little (because we invented football as it is played today). The general public are idiots.
 




Barrel of Fun

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How, practically, will rubbing shoulders with England players be a life changer?

I once spoke to Princess Anne. I'm still waiting for the untold riches. She had a disclaimer though, she said 'may'.

Whether or not their mere presence is a 'life changer', it is not for Lallana todecide that.
 


KneeOn

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How, practically, will rubbing shoulders with England players be a life changer?

I once spoke to Princess Anne. I'm still waiting for the untold riches. She had a disclaimer though, she said 'may'.

Whether or not their mere presence is a 'life changer', it is not for Lallana todecide that.

Because a young man or woman who is living in a place surrounded by drugs, guns, violence and gans may be inspired to not succumb to these negative influences and make something of their lives. Because if more people were aware of the situation in these "second world" economies which have economies which on one end are rising almost exponentially and on the other are seeing living conditions worsen then more work is going to be done. There is no quantifiable practical effect - i'll concede that happily - but you underestimate how meeting people who are representing a historic institution which they relate to (given how Brazil is mad about football) can provide hope and that good feeling which might not directly put food on the table, roofs over heads and the rest of it but it may instigate some one to do something towards that goal.

What's the point in anyone famous rubbing shoulders with people who live in abject poverty then? All due respect BoF, you are in the top 5% richest people to have ever lived by virtue of living in this country at the present time.
 


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