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Leicester Bid £3 /£5/£7.5 million for Ulloa



Hungry Joe

SINNEN
Oct 22, 2004
7,636
Heading for shore
I just don't see it as a choice. He'll know that we aren't going to really go for it next season as we won't/can't risk the club's well being on a gamble like that. In any case, why would he want to give it another season when he can get an immediate chance with Leicester, be played regularly and be paid shed loads of money? What if he picks up a bad injury like last year with us and misses his chance completely?

Would love him to feel that he wants to stay with us and that he would be happy for us to turn an offer like that down but just don't believe it.

It's not his choice though, it's the club's. He may be pissed if he misses the opportunity to play in the Prem next season, but he won't be the first and keeping hold of him should be seen as a statement of intent that we are serious about making a challenge next season. Only Ulloa himself knows how he'd really feel about that, so no point second guessing.
 






crasher

New member
Jul 8, 2003
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Sussex
must admit ld sell for 7 mill but id try and get some add ons say another 3 mill if they stay up!

I'm only guessing here but I'd very much doubt the £7m (if true) would be a straight cash offer. It's already likely to include some add-ons, if-we-stay-up clauses, etc
 




Steve.S

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May 11, 2012
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Hastings
I do not think the club would turn down 7 million, they have just offloaded 6 players and will need to rebuild the team. My view, let's get 10million for Ulloa and Buckley and invest that money on young talented players for the future. We have already shown that our DS squad is good at bringing players on, the money would allow the new manager to get a mixture of experienced and young players and rebuild.
 




nwgull

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Jul 25, 2003
13,916
Manchester
Poor analogy unless you know who we have lined up as potential replacements.

I don't, but I do know that there'll be a long list of scouted players that would suddenly become well within our budget if we had 7m to spend.

How many of us had even heard of players like Ulloa, Nzuzi or Van Dyke before we had made bids for them?
 


One Teddy Maybank

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Aug 4, 2006
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Worthing
Felt Ulloa was injured in the second half of the season and that may have contributed to his relatively poor form and apparent half-hearted approach in some games. That said, whilst £7m is a good return, what does that say about us as a club?

For 2 years we moaned about CMS working on his own, we then brought Ulloa who provided the presence we needed, only to starve him of service and support under Oscar.

If we are happy being a mid-table championship club then fine, take the £7m, but expect crowds to drop off and consequently a loss of revenue. If we are serious about supporting the fantastic infrastructure with a push for the premier league, turn the bid down and keep moving forward under a new manager.

We have 27000 gates, have dramatically cut our wage bill... we should not have to sell to survive.
 


Papa Lazarou

Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
Jul 7, 2003
18,926
Worthing
Felt Ulloa was injured in the second half of the season and that may have contributed to his relatively poor form and apparent half-hearted approach in some games. That said, whilst £7m is a good return, what does that say about us as a club?

For 2 years we moaned about CMS working on his own, we then brought Ulloa who provided the presence we needed, only to starve him of service and support under Oscar.

If we are happy being a mid-table championship club then fine, take the £7m, but expect crowds to drop off and consequently a loss of revenue. If we are serious about supporting the fantastic infrastructure with a push for the premier league, turn the bid down and keep moving forward under a new manager.

We have 27000 gates, have dramatically cut our wage bill... we should not have to sell to survive.

There are very few clubs that never sell players. As has been mentioned, Burnley sold Austin last summer and we're still pretty competitive.
 




One Teddy Maybank

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There are very few clubs that never sell players. As has been mentioned, Burnley sold Austin last summer and we're still pretty competitive.

There are also clubs that keep their better players and sell the ones they wish to off-load. We are not talking about Buckley (who probably is dispensable), we are talking about our main (and arguably only), goal threat. Of course you can argue the Burnley case, but they had to sell, given their parachute payments had finished. It was pure luck that Vokes hit form at the same time as Ings, whilst both had been useful, neither had been 'that' established prior to last year I would suggest.
 


8ace

Banned
Jul 21, 2003
23,811
Brighton
Sorry disagree, not bothered about the PL. More interested in the club being financially secure and competitive in this league. Parachute payments and FFP are going to make it harder to challenge for the PL as clubs keep within a budget the clubs coming down are going to have millions to spend. Anyone of the 3 clubs coming down will have 60million plus, they could easily afford 15million to spend on transfers, we could not compete with that. I know people will say that the clubs coming down will have bigger wages to pay, however I think more clubs will have get out clauses for relegation, meaning they can cut their cloth accordingly straight away. FFP will eventually see the same clubs going up and down

Being competitive in this league and not making a loss are mutually exclusive. The EPL is the only place you make money.
 






Beach Hut

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 5, 2003
72,036
Living In a Box
I suspect BHAFC may well go down the youth road from next season which will be interesting.
 


Horses Arse

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Jun 25, 2004
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It's not his choice though, it's the club's. He may be pissed if he misses the opportunity to play in the Prem next season, but he won't be the first and keeping hold of him should be seen as a statement of intent that we are serious about making a challenge next season. Only Ulloa himself knows how he'd really feel about that, so no point second guessing.

Absolutely it's the club's choice and it would also be a firm statement of intent if we turned down all offers. However, it's not only the impact on the player in terms of his attitude but also how that may affect others and also players we are trying to attract. Whilst the club is theoretically in control they really have little choice; players and their agents have that now, unless they're rubbish.

I've no idea how Ulloa really feels about the club and his time here but I'd be very surprised if he just got his head down and committed 100% to the cause if he felt that he'd been prevented from furthering his career.
 






Steve.S

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May 11, 2012
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Hastings
Being competitive in this league and not making a loss are mutually exclusive. The EPL is the only place you make money.

Disagree, just because you are in the PL does not make you a club that is in profit. Are you telling me all the clubs in the premiership are making money and are financially secure. QPR came into this league in financial trouble last season.
 




pornomagboy

wake me up before you gogo who needs potter when
May 16, 2006
6,021
peacehaven
Would you welcome Murray back if ulloa was to go
 


Machiavelli

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Oct 11, 2013
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Fiveways
There are very few clubs that never sell players. As has been mentioned, Burnley sold Austin last summer and we're still pretty competitive.

And they sold him for £4m. As much as I love Ulloa, if the figure is £7m, we really ought to take it. And I say this ultimately because I trust the club's infrastructure to find a suitable replacement. After all, they got Ulloa for £2m, and signed him on a four-year deal. It makes you wonder what we could do with £7m.
 




Dan Aitch

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May 31, 2013
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I would hate, hate, hate to lose Leo. I'm just hoping that whoever the new manager will be will have a chance to influence the decision, whatever that decision might be. I'm not sure he (or she... well, you never know) will get that chance and I have to admit that he looked some way off his brilliant best for much of last year, but if he goes then I hope we act quickly to secure a top-notch replacement. £7m is an amazing amount but then with £130m at stake, again, I hope the club balances the books against the best interests of a positive goal difference.

Ramble over.
 




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