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England player in 'blacking up' storm



symyjym

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Nov 2, 2009
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Brighton / Hove actually

Nice spot, so I thought I would upload it for you:

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pastafarian

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Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex
I would suggest whoever complained in the first place should probably avoid Holland in the run up to xmas

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midnight_rendezvous

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Aug 10, 2012
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The Black Country
Total nonsense.

Why is it? Donning black face has a history steeped in racism so why is it "nonsense" that people in the modern day find it offensive or believe it to be a sensitive subject?
 




The Wookiee

Back From The Dead
Nov 10, 2003
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Worthing
WTF was she meant to do ? She was dressing up as Whoopi Goldberg. She would look an odd Whoopi Goldberg if she stayed white.
 


TWOCHOICEStom

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Sep 22, 2007
10,610
Brighton
Why is it? Donning black face has a history steeped in racism so why is it "nonsense" that people in the modern day find it offensive or believe it to be a sensitive subject?

OR.

Making yourself look more like somebody by painting your face isn't offensive in the slightest and everybody should just calm down and stop getting offended by things which are not even remotely offensive in the slightest.
 


Barrel of Fun

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I went to a fancy dress party and the theme was "When I grow up, I want to be..."

A group of us went as Peruvian Traveling Musicians (I know, what cards!).

The rather dark fake tan didn't come off for a couple of weeks. I don't remember being accosted by anyone for being outrageously racist. Outrageously silly, but not racist.
 

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Icy Gull

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Why is it? Donning black face has a history steeped in racism so why is it "nonsense" that people in the modern day find it offensive or believe it to be a sensitive subject?

Lucky the Black and White minstrels isn't still on tv, this place would go into meltdown.
 




midnight_rendezvous

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Aug 10, 2012
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The Black Country
OR.

Making yourself look more like somebody by painting your face isn't offensive in the slightest and everybody should just calm down and stop getting offended by things which are not even remotely offensive in the slightest.

Yes but unfortunately due to the first half of 20th century that is easier said than done. I said in my very first post I didn't consider it to be racist in the slightest just a sensitive issue due to black face being used a form of racially insensitive entertainment in the early 20th century.
 




Tom Bombadil

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Jul 14, 2003
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Jibrovia
Yes because I clearly said that anyone who dons black face is a nazi.

How dare you see the other side of the argument. I'm sure they've spoken to ( or imagined) a black person who doesn't have a problem with it . You're obviously some sort pinko PC fascist killjoy.
 


midnight_rendezvous

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Aug 10, 2012
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The Black Country
How dare you see the other side of the argument. I'm sure they've spoken to ( or imagined) a black person who doesn't have a problem with it . You're obviously some sort pinko PC fascist killjoy.

Sorry. I'll get my coat
 


A mex eyecan

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Nov 3, 2011
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If you really don't understand why a white person "blacking up" is a sensitive issue then you really must be a bit dim. Was it racist? Most probably not but the whole concept of black face is steeped in racial prejudice thus it being a sensitive issue.

I think the only credible answer to this STUPID comment is
BOLLO6KS

For heaven sakes ones black one white, shall we just pretend ?.

I'm white, would I care if Lenny Henry put on white make up in an attempt to be me at a fancy dress (though heaven on earth knows why he would!).? Of course I wouldn't
 


amexee

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Jun 19, 2011
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haywards heath
Why is it? Donning black face has a history steeped in racism so why is it "nonsense" that people in the modern day find it offensive or believe it to be a sensitive subject?

Really? Most ardent racists dress up as black people to promote a discriminatory agenda?
I suppose we will have to accept that it is likely lots of palace shirts are going to appear in the North stand and BHA ones in the holmesdale next week

I would say that the only intolerance being shown is by the paper and the OP
 




midnight_rendezvous

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Aug 10, 2012
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The Black Country
I think the only credible answer to this STUPID comment is
BOLLO6KS

For heaven sakes ones black one white, shall we just pretend ?.

I'm white, would I care if Lenny Henry put on white make up in an attempt to be me at a fancy dress (though heaven on earth knows why he would!).? Of course I wouldn't

Yes it's really stupid to acknowledge history and why that history might affect the way some people view things today. How utterly idiotic of me to use historical context to asses a situation and deem it to be sensitive. Silly me.
 


Algernon

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Sep 9, 2012
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Newmarket.
I went to a fancy dress party and the theme was "When I grow up, I want to be..."

A group of us went as Peruvian Traveling Musicians (I know, what cards!).

The rather dark fake tan didn't come off for a couple of weeks. I don't remember being accosted by anyone for being outrageously racist. Outrageously silly, but not racist.

Ralph Fiennes in the middle?
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