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melias shoes

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Oct 14, 2010
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This. Yet some people just can't get their heads around the fact that this is an attacking formation. Just because there aren't two big lumps up front.

Who's talking about 2 big lumps? I just want to see different options. It's not as if we are scoring freely with one up front. 30 goals in total in the league.
 




jgmcdee

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Mar 25, 2012
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I have to admit I'd like to see two up front, or perhaps a 4-2-3-1 with CMS behind Ulloa. Given that this is pretty much the first chance that Oscar has had to put out more than one striker on a regular basis I'm hopeful that he'll find a way of doing this, although if KLL and Buckley were both fit and playing well there wouldn't be such a need.
 


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Who's talking about 2 big lumps? I just want to see different options. It's not as if we are scoring freely with one up front. 30 goals in total in the league.

Anything to do with the near constant injuries to our first choice wingers and the fact the main front man has been out as well?
 


SweatyMexican

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Mar 31, 2013
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We should go 2 up front at home for sure. We will have loads of options/ combos in a couple of weeks time. Got a sneaking feeling we might see CMS on bench tomorrow.

Well he played 20 odd minutes in the DS a week ago, so he is not that far off match-playable fitness.
 
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Acker79

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I'm not sure which formation is best, but I would like to see more players pushing forward when we're on the attack. Lopez, Buckley and Lualua struggle finding a team mate when there's only one or two in among the 6 defensive players, if we had more men in the box more often, there'd be a better chance one of ours gets on the end of it. But I think that is as much about the approach of the players as it is the formation.
 






midnight_rendezvous

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We will never play a variation of 4-4-2 and people really need to accept that
 


Charlies Shinpad

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Jul 5, 2003
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If you listen to Alan Mullery the other night and he stated you need a 20+ goals a year striker with others around him chipping in. I don't want to big lumps up front and I do understand the way OG is playing at the moment with his injury woes etc but with two mobile forwards in this division it will work.
If we did go up the the way he plays now would be suited to it. IMHO
 




B.W.

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Stick with 4-3-3 but one of the front 3 will be CMS, Dave 2 or Hoskins. That means 2 strikers. It doesn't mean 4-4-2. Some people have no idea. Barnes was incapable of playing the 2nd striker we'll IMHO due to his lack of pace. We shall see.
 




Publius Ovidius

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This. Yet some people just can't get their heads around the fact that this is an attacking formation. Just because there aren't two big lumps up front.


Well actually it relies on a midfielder becoming the extra attacker, rather than having a player like Barnes, who has actually played up front in his career. And over the last couple of weeks since Barnes ulloa has been isolated on his own and by all accounts getting very frustrated.

For all his detractors, Barnes was the perfect foil for ulloa and looking at CMS, he is more a chase the ball/man type player, we don not know about Rodney yet, the spuds bloke looks a bit rubbish and Hoskins will be that Barnes sort of player, but we are still not sure how he can come back after terrible injuries.

Certainly we are set up for 1 up front and I haven't seen anything in our signings, apart from Rodney that makes me thing we will change it.
 




Napper

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WelCertainly we are set up for 1 up front and I haven't seen anything in our signings, apart from Rodney that makes me thing we will change it.


Agree , Sanchez for me is a possibility we may go a bit more attacking but he needs to hit the ground running otherwise think we will persist with same formation
 


Urchin

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We can play 4-3-3 with two strikers, seeing as Rodney can play anywhere across the front 3 apparently.

Kuszczak

Bruno Greer Upson Ward

Andrews

Ince Stephens


Rodney Ulloa LuaLua
 


seagullsovergrimsby

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Aug 21, 2005
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Spanish Rodney is the replacement for Barnesy , he'll be the player who can switch to playing just behind Spanish Len , upfront with him or out on the wing supplying him.
 




Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
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I know Oscar likes 4-3-3 so I can't see how this works with Ulloa and CMS/ SD2. I'd like to see us try the 442 because it seems the best system for the players we've got who are fit.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Let's move away from the tired old 2 striker idea which has repeatedly been shown to be inadequate and behind the times IMHO. I prefer a more fluid team, one striker, and other professional footballers being capable of shooting at the big goal.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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I know Oscar likes 4-3-3 so I can't see how this works with Ulloa and CMS/ SD2. I'd like to see us try the 442 because it seems the best system for the players we've got who are fit.

442? It's 2014.
 


Machiavelli

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Oct 11, 2013
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Oscar believes in 4-3-3 and it's instilled into all the teams from the first team to the academy kids.

This. For all those wanting two up-front, what you're really saying is that you want to get rid of Oscar. I don't.

I accept that, at times and especially away from home, we've been reticent in our attacking intent, but this is down to the severe injury crisis that Oscar has had to suffer. We're now in a situation where the following are fit:
Ulloa, KLL, Obika, Orlandi, SD*2, Orlandi, March
Buckley is probably a game away from returning. CMS within a month, and there's even the prospect that Hoskins might be back before the season finishes.
This is an enticing group to select a front three from.
We also have the prospect of Orlandi, Stephens, Lopez, Agustein and JFC playing in the advanced midfield positions.
What this lot need to start doing is creating and scoring goals. I think this will happen, although I'm not holding out for too many tomorrow.
After tomorrow, we've got four home games in a row. This will be the real test of Oscar's attacking intent.
 




DarrenFreemansPerm

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Stick with 4-3-3 but one of the front 3 will be CMS, Dave 2 or Hoskins. That means 2 strikers. It doesn't mean 4-4-2. Some people have no idea. Barnes was incapable of playing the 2nd striker we'll IMHO due to his lack of pace. We shall see.

Of the three I'd imagine only Rodriguez can play in a front 3, if it is indeed correct that he can play as a wide man. Ulloa will be the central figure and focal point, the 2 wider players need to be a combination of KLL, Buckley, Rodriguez and March. CMS should be used centrally also, I don't think he posseses the touch or cross to play as a wide right/left.
That means 1 striker but 3 forwards.
 


seagullsovergrimsby

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Aug 21, 2005
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I know Oscar likes 4-3-3 so I can't see how this works with Ulloa and CMS/ SD2. I'd like to see us try the 442 because it seems the best system for the players we've got who are fit.

It will work with CMS , he just has to reprise his labrador role chasing balls into the channels
 


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