Bridcutt Close to Signing for Sunderland? (Sky Sports News)

[Papa Lazarou]

The next loss announced will be larger than 8 million, but don't forget that is Amex year 2, and so free of FFP penalty.

The following loss - this season, amex year 3 - is on track to beat the FFP limit ( 8 million ) I believe.

The FFP limit for the year after that is a 5 million loss, but no point in worrying yet about that as, who knows, we may be in the PL, and then the rules are different.

Yes, I'd imagine they will have loaded as much debt (actual or via accounting) into this last free year before they real penalties kick in. I'd guess at 10-12M loss.

 

[nwgull]

Yes, I'd imagine they will have loaded as much debt (actual or via accounting) into this last free year before they real penalties kick in. I'd guess at 10-12M loss.

This is what I'm expecting. I also expect that when the accounts come out for this season in 11 months, the loss will probably be reported as near enough 8M due to them bringing forward as much expenditure as they can (without exceeding 8M) to make it easier to meet the lower 5M target for the 2014/15 season .

 

[Mellotron]

He did like it here and its probably never been the same for him since Gus was booted out. Losing players like him was always going to be a consequence of the change of manager, Bridge gone, Bridcutt on his way, Buckley and Barnes seem next out the door but thankfully we don't have anymore 'B' players.

Barker's gone but there's still Bruno.

 

[JCL - the new kid in town]

He did like it here and its probably never been the same for him since Gus was booted out. Losing players like him was always going to be a consequence of the change of manager, Bridge gone, Bridcutt on his way, Buckley and Barnes seem next out the door but thankfully we don't have anymore 'B' players.

Bruno? Brezovan?

 

[Deleted member 22389]

Thought I would be bothered about Bridcutt going but I am not. Same with Buckley if it happens. It's possibly because we have played well enough without them. They where a major part of Gus era.

If we could get 7 million for the pair that would be a good bit of business in my opinion. That's enough for two quality players in this league.

 

[Maximus]

No worries, this is why players only hand is transfer requests as a last resort, imagine a Prem player on £3 mill a year with 2 years left on his deal. He hands in a request when another club comes in it would lose him £6 million to force the move.

This would help reduce the transfer fee and could force the move but at big cost to the player.

.........unless his new club would rather pay him a big signing on fee rather than give it to the other club in a transfer fee

It's not the wage that will be paid to the player, only outstanding bonuses and clauses. For example, a signing on fee staggered over a number of contracted years is quite common. If the player moves, he gets what he's owed, as althought the payments were staggered, that was only a payment plan. However if he forces the move, he wipes out whatever was remaining. This is what happened with Tevez. The weekly wage is only owed when the player is under contract at the club. When the player is brought out of his contract, the weekly wage stops.

I imagine Bridcutt received a signing on fee with his new contract, and the club are no longer liable to honour the payments. Another good hand from Tony.

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

Bruno? Brezovan?

Bugger. Blimey.

 

[Arkwright]

Isn't the sale of Bridcutt basic business, buy low and sell high and then re-invest the profit whether it is on or off the pitch that is up to the board.

Until we reach the top flight the Albion will always be a stepping stone for quality young players, hopefully we will see more of this with the academy.

 

[stss30]

Isn't the sale of Bridcutt basic business, buy low and sell high and then re-invest the profit whether it is on or off the pitch that is up to the board.

Until we reach the top flight the Albion will always be a stepping stone for quality young players, hopefully we will see more of this with the academy.

Spot on.

 

[Hotchilidog]

The transfer request should work in our favour as other teams may well become interested, possibly forcing Sunderland to come up with a sensible offer sooner rather than later.

Liam's work here is done in my opinion. I hope gets a good move, we get a good price, we can then look to develop Ince as the midfield general for many years to come.

 

[Maximus]

He did like it here and its probably never been the same for him since Gus was booted out. Losing players like him was always going to be a consequence of the change of manager, Bridge gone, Bridcutt on his way, Buckley and Barnes seem next out the door but thankfully we don't have anymore 'B' players.

Can't argue with Bridcutt being a Gus 'player'. Gus got the best out of him due to his way of playing, and making him the linchpin.

I'd argue that we were never in the running of signing Wayne Bridge due to his high wages. Even Gus said when he was here that we should just enjoy him whilst we can. We were never going to match Reading's clout. The only way we would have got him is if he decided to earn less money on his last contract out of sentiment. However I do agree that this sentiment could have increased if Gus stayed and Bridge enjoyed his life under Gus specifically, rather than the club as whole.

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

He was always going to go...all our player of the season tend to go.

Although I am very annoyed at this as I would have hoped we were not a selling club anymore, I would be more worried if ulloa was touted around. I have never really been a fan of Buckley as I thought he was a sick note luxury player and my Watford mate did warn me about him and it appears he was right..

You know, I really hate the phrase 'we're not a selling club anymore'. I hear it banded around all over the place but what does it mean? Only that we don't need to sell to cover debts, but not that we can refuse to sell anyone. 99.9% of clubs are selling clubs and there is no way of getting round it. West Ham are bigger than us but had to sell Ince, Lampard, Carrick. Saints had to sell Shearer, Bale, Walcott. In turn Tottenham couldn't hang on to either Carrick or Bale long-term. Everton couldn't keep Rooney. Newcastle had to let Cole go. Arsenal eventually sold Fabregas, van Persie, Nasri to bigger clubs. When Ronaldo wanted out of Man United he was gone.

All clubs are selling clubs, the players ultimately dictate where they play

 

[edna krabappel]

Can't argue with Bridcutt being a Gus 'player'. Gus got the best out of him due to his way of playing, and making him the linchpin.

I'd argue that we were never in the running of signing Wayne Bridge due to his high wages. Even Gus said when he was here that we should just enjoy him whilst we can. We were never going to match Reading's clout. The only way we would have got him is if he decided to earn less money on his last contract out of sentiment. However I do agree that this sentiment could have increased if Gus stayed and Bridge enjoyed his life under Gus specifically, rather than the club as whole.

On that note, Bridge has played (I think) nine games for Reading this season, due to injury issues.

Possibly, given his wages, we dodged a bullet there.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

You know, I really hate the phrase 'we're not a selling club anymore'. I hear it banded around all over the place but what does it mean? Only that we don't need to sell to cover debts, but not that we can refuse to sell anyone. 99.9% of clubs are selling clubs and there is no way of getting round it. West Ham are bigger than us but had to sell Ince, Lampard, Carrick. Saints had to sell Shearer, Bale, Walcott. In turn Tottenham couldn't hang on to either Carrick or Bale long-term. Everton couldn't keep Rooney. Newcastle had to let Cole go. Arsenal eventually sold Fabregas, van Persie, Nasri to bigger clubs. When Ronaldo wanted out of Man United he was gone.

All clubs are selling clubs, the players ultimately dictate where they play

When we start bringing exceptional young players through the training academy who in the past have opted for the big clubs in London then we will be selling these starlets as a continuous revenue stream.

 

[edna krabappel]

When we start bringing exceptional young players through the training academy who in the past have opted for the big clubs in London then we will be selling these starlets as a continuous revenue stream.

Realistically, that's probably 3-4 years away, so patience is required.

 

[JBizzle]

On that note, Bridge has played (I think) nine games for Reading this season, due to injury issues.

Possibly, given his wages, we dodged a bullet there.

I agree, quality player but we had to manage his fitness very carefully during our time with us so I'm not surprised he has succumbed to injuries.

 

[chucky1973]

Strange move by Sunderland, not sure Bridders is what they need to avoid the drop, unless they are already building for next season

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

Realistically, that's probably 3-4 years away, so patience is required.

Takes a bit of time to get the conveyor belt up and working.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

Strange move by Sunderland, not sure Bridders is what they need to avoid the drop, unless they are already building for next season

They maybe wanting to bring in a player who can do the job of an existing player who is earning more wages which they can get rid of in the transfer window.

 

[CAPTAIN GREALISH]

Strange move by Sunderland, not sure Bridders is what they need to avoid the drop, unless they are already building for next season

bridders is just what they need to avoid the drop