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Player ratings v Watford (h)
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Mackenzie
Old Brightonian
Kuszczak 7
Bruno 6
Greer 6
Upson 6
Ward 7
Caskey 6
Andrews 5
Crofts 7
Conway 6
Barnes 7
Buckley 8
Bruno 6
Greer 6
Upson 6
Ward 7
Caskey 6
Andrews 5
Crofts 7
Conway 6
Barnes 7
Buckley 8
Some of the low ratings on here make me wonder if Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea players are being used as a bench mark
Given the number of Albion fans who might have the Albion as a second team that shouldn't be a surprise
Surely you mark every player whether they are playing a Premiership or Championship game starting at a 5 as average for what you have come to expect in that standard and then + or - for their performance during the game. Are you suggesting that a higher number than 5 should be considered the average?
Mackenzie
Old Brightonian
That was pretty poor. We really do lack a midfielder with bite at the moment. Someone really should have kicked Forestieri into the stands.
Icy Gull
Back on the rollercoaster
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No I'm suggesting that marking anyone with a 5 or less last night is a travesty and they are possibly influenced by how good a Premier League player is when giving their marks.
Kumquat
New member
- Mar 2, 2009
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Surprised no one has picked up on how good Ward was. Made a couple of crucial interventions. Thought he, Buckley and Barnes were really good and Crofts just shaded them for MoM for me. Agreed with Garcia's comments that we put in a decent performance against a team with no injuries. And Deeny didn't score for once!
OK that's fair enough
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Or football isn't so black and white, and I just have a different opinion.
countryman
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- Jun 28, 2011
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Kuzsczak - 7 the deflection caught him out for their goal. His kicking has improved and he commanded his box better then he has in recent performances.
Bruno - 8
Greer - 6 Saved us on the line.
Upson - 8 One dodgy pass. Apart from that he was brilliant.
Ward - 6. Unlucky deflection for their goal but he was his usual solid self.
Andrews - 6
JFC - 6
Crofts - 8 Nicely taken goal. And nearly scored another but their keeper made a very good save.
Buckley - 7 Their full back had his hands full.
Conway - 6 some good crosses but a very average performance.
Barnes - 8 Brilliant. Held the ball up very well and made some very good creative passes. Forced their keeper into a very good save in the first half from a header.
Lita - not sharp enough yet but that will come with playing more. He has a presence on their centre backs.
Calderon - Only got a couple of minutes but showed some attacking threat in that time.
Bruno - 8
Greer - 6 Saved us on the line.
Upson - 8 One dodgy pass. Apart from that he was brilliant.
Ward - 6. Unlucky deflection for their goal but he was his usual solid self.
Andrews - 6
JFC - 6
Crofts - 8 Nicely taken goal. And nearly scored another but their keeper made a very good save.
Buckley - 7 Their full back had his hands full.
Conway - 6 some good crosses but a very average performance.
Barnes - 8 Brilliant. Held the ball up very well and made some very good creative passes. Forced their keeper into a very good save in the first half from a header.
Lita - not sharp enough yet but that will come with playing more. He has a presence on their centre backs.
Calderon - Only got a couple of minutes but showed some attacking threat in that time.
Tricky Dicky
New member
Those at the game must have seen it different than TV. I thought Bruno was appalling, a complete liability, but there you go.
Don't normally disagree with you Icy Gull, but I am amazed that more than a fair proportion of fans, think that was a performance worthy of high marks. It was better than Yeovil granted, but it was desperate for long periods, and reserve team or not, the fact that we were defending deep towards the end and kicking it aimlessly upfield to Lita out of pure hope is not good enough. If we are satisfied with a home draw against Watford, well our standards have really fallen. I know we lost to them last season, but they were a much better team then IMO, with Vydra and a fully fit Deeney.
I think and hope last night was a turning point and we will now kick on.
Have to question the "gaffer" on his selection:
- why get a striker on loan (Lita) and not start him? Particularly when the guy you do start with hasn't scored since ..... Pontius was on simulators. Madness.
- Bruno in preference to Calderon
He's a liability on too many occasions.
- our wingers last night hardly set the world alight. Why not give Solly March a start?
- JFC really isn't up to the required standard. We must have a better (uninjured) option.
Kuszczack 6: No chance with the goal. Otherwise played OK.
Bruno 4: One or two nice pieces of trickery, a couple of excellent passes, but apart from that a real liability. His defending is very poor and he could well of been shown a second yellow early in the 2nd half.
Upson 5: So-so game. Doesn't look as good as last season.
Greer 6: A little better than Upson, but too many wayward passes.
Ward 6: Nutmegged far too easily early in the 2nd half (immediately before Watford's second "goal", I believe), but apart from that a decent game.
Andrews 5: A bit anonymous in my opinion.
Crofts 7: Well taken goal and another great shot. Worked hard. MOM.
Conway 6: Probably the best I have seen from him. Shame about the header; he got up well.
JFC 4: Not good enough. Too lightweight; does not appear to be giving 100%.
Buckley 5: Very frustrating. Seems unable to beat his man. Too many poor crosses mixed in with some good ones. Nowhere near the player he was last season.
Barnes: 7: One of his better games recently, but playing the striker role he needs to score goals!
Subs:
Lita 5: Difficult to rate him. Only touched the ball twice in 20 mins on the pitch. His team-mates appeared to ignore him when he came on.
Calderon 6: At least he looked interested.
Frustrating game. A point against the 7th place team is not bad, but it was really a 2-1 defeat which is nowhere good enough. Too many players playing below last season's standards.
- why get a striker on loan (Lita) and not start him? Particularly when the guy you do start with hasn't scored since ..... Pontius was on simulators. Madness.
- Bruno in preference to Calderon
He's a liability on too many occasions.- our wingers last night hardly set the world alight. Why not give Solly March a start?
- JFC really isn't up to the required standard. We must have a better (uninjured) option.
Kuszczack 6: No chance with the goal. Otherwise played OK.
Bruno 4: One or two nice pieces of trickery, a couple of excellent passes, but apart from that a real liability. His defending is very poor and he could well of been shown a second yellow early in the 2nd half.
Upson 5: So-so game. Doesn't look as good as last season.
Greer 6: A little better than Upson, but too many wayward passes.
Ward 6: Nutmegged far too easily early in the 2nd half (immediately before Watford's second "goal", I believe), but apart from that a decent game.
Andrews 5: A bit anonymous in my opinion.
Crofts 7: Well taken goal and another great shot. Worked hard. MOM.
Conway 6: Probably the best I have seen from him. Shame about the header; he got up well.
JFC 4: Not good enough. Too lightweight; does not appear to be giving 100%.
Buckley 5: Very frustrating. Seems unable to beat his man. Too many poor crosses mixed in with some good ones. Nowhere near the player he was last season.
Barnes: 7: One of his better games recently, but playing the striker role he needs to score goals!
Subs:
Lita 5: Difficult to rate him. Only touched the ball twice in 20 mins on the pitch. His team-mates appeared to ignore him when he came on.
Calderon 6: At least he looked interested.
Frustrating game. A point against the 7th place team is not bad, but it was really a 2-1 defeat which is nowhere good enough. Too many players playing below last season's standards.
BUTTERBALL
East Stand Brighton Boyz
Kuszczack 7 - a couple of fine saves
Bruno 5 - either dreadful or brilliant (going forward), no inbetween
Upson 5 - exposed a couple of times
Greer 6 - relatively solid
Ward 7 - good after a sluggish start
Andrews 4 - his worst game for us, pulled out of some challenges
JFC 6 - thought he put in a shift
Crofts 7 - always looking to fashion something and got stuck in
Conway 7 - some good crosses, if he saw more of the ball he would have done even better
Buckley 7 - a decent enough performance and seemed to have more of his old pace last night
Barnes 8 - man of the match, class performance but lots of donkey work, so not much chance to score.
Subs: Lita 6 - didn't see much of the ball but looked lively; Cade - not on long enough.
A good hard-working team performance for which the players should be given some credit.
Bruno 5 - either dreadful or brilliant (going forward), no inbetween
Upson 5 - exposed a couple of times
Greer 6 - relatively solid
Ward 7 - good after a sluggish start
Andrews 4 - his worst game for us, pulled out of some challenges
JFC 6 - thought he put in a shift
Crofts 7 - always looking to fashion something and got stuck in
Conway 7 - some good crosses, if he saw more of the ball he would have done even better
Buckley 7 - a decent enough performance and seemed to have more of his old pace last night
Barnes 8 - man of the match, class performance but lots of donkey work, so not much chance to score.
Subs: Lita 6 - didn't see much of the ball but looked lively; Cade - not on long enough.
A good hard-working team performance for which the players should be given some credit.
Arkwright
Arkwright
I often wonder if I have seen the same game as some. Against a strong Watford side with a mix of power and skill as a unit the Albion battled to a well deserved draw. Upson a Greer were both really solid, yes a couple of miss placed passes but they are defenders and only conceded a deflected goal.
Crofts and Andrews both put in great shifts last night, JFC showed potential and Buckley and Barnes both had good games. The spine of the side is coming along nicely and the team are starting to play the managers style with more confidence.
For what it's worth I think we would be a better side playing 4 4 2, however at present we don't have the players to play it.
Crofts and Andrews both put in great shifts last night, JFC showed potential and Buckley and Barnes both had good games. The spine of the side is coming along nicely and the team are starting to play the managers style with more confidence.
For what it's worth I think we would be a better side playing 4 4 2, however at present we don't have the players to play it.
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Averages
Starters (21 votes)
Buckley 7.19
Crofts 6.98
Barnes 6.95
Ward 6.52 (92mins)
Kuszczak 6.45
Upson 6.21
Forster-Caskey 5.74
Andrews 5.71
Conway 5.60 (75mins)
Greer 5.60
Bruno 5.33
Subs
Calderon 6.00 (5mins - 4 votes)
Lita 5.67 (22mins - 6 votes)
Squad Average - 6.15
Starters (21 votes)
Buckley 7.19
Crofts 6.98
Barnes 6.95
Ward 6.52 (92mins)
Kuszczak 6.45
Upson 6.21
Forster-Caskey 5.74
Andrews 5.71
Conway 5.60 (75mins)
Greer 5.60
Bruno 5.33
Subs
Calderon 6.00 (5mins - 4 votes)
Lita 5.67 (22mins - 6 votes)
Squad Average - 6.15
Stoaty Ferret
Active member
Buckley mom for me and my firm sponsored the game. Thought Barnes played with a lot of maturity as well.