Police 'paid' to seek FBO's

[melias shoes]

I think our our Police Force are, in the main, wonderful.

Sussex Police especially, and your assertion based on an internet rumour about them removing their "numbers" is wrong.

Yeah,you keep telling yourself that.

 

[Superphil]

so you're an informer
regards
DR

Oh no, not at all, just glad that they might (according to you) have some informers, should to keep me, my friends and family safe. If it gets them banned, their faces in the press and warns other Police Forces who can prevent them attending matches elsewhere, then what's not to like?

 

[Barrel of Fun]

Filmed by the Police at Football: Does it bother you?

Following on from this thread - http://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?285408-Police-paid-to-seek-FBO-s - Does it bother you being filmed?

 

[Buzzer]

Sussex police are the worst IMO

Joking surely? I'm not saying Sussex are innocent but South Yorkshire and the Met are the low benchmarks in my opinion. I know I give them loads of grief but the way their police liaison officer treats the Palace Ultras is nothing short of harassment. He used to be at Charlton but is now banned from the ground, I beileve, his reputation is that bad.

Even so, this report shows that footie fans are soft targets. Those Albion fans that fought the Spurs mob a few years back got jailed for something they'd have got a caution for if it had been down West Street on any given weekend.

 

[Dandyman]

EXACTLY - and the police wonder why people don't trust them !!!! Look at the other identifiable officers not even step in and provide the information. CORRUPTION - top to bottom !

And to clarify (with the exception of covert operations) when asked a Police Officer is obliged to give you their name and their station. They may also provide their collar number.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Oh no, not at all, just glad that they might (according to you) have some informers, should to keep me, my friends and family safe. If it gets them banned, their faces in the press and warns other Police Forces who can prevent them attending matches elsewhere, then what's not to like?

YOU'D HAVE TO ASK THE PERSON ON THE BANNING ORDER THAT
regards
DR

 

[Dandyman]

https://www.gov.uk/police-powers-to-stop-and-search-your-rights

 

[edna krabappel]

No indeed - that might be the case. Your heavy story is of some concern though given that guidance given to police officers ( and their commanders ) is that epaulettes should not be easy removable. If a bag can knock them off them a bit of a scuffle is hardly likely to keep them in place. Regardless the other points remain valid.

It's probably a cost thing. Pretty sure it is in Sussex anyway, as their budget is less than many forces.

Each officer has at the very minimum a stab vest, lightweight & heavyweight jackets, and fleeces that would require identifying marks.

To issue kit with names/numbers sewn on would be pretty expensive as an initial outlay. Then take into account officers who leave (and whose kit thus can't be recycled/ passed on), ones who get promoted (and thus require new insignia), and ones who change names through marriage (which in our case would usually mean a new warrant number)- they'd all have to be issued with new sets of kit every time.

And that's before you start renewing kit that gets torn, contaminated, worn out. It would lead to huge wastage.

Hence everyone (where I work) gets issued with sets of epaulettes to fit the different bits of kit & button them on accordingly. Not ideal but I don't know what the answer is without a large cost implication.

With regard to the bag thing, I only meant that if I'm carrying something really heavy over my shoulder & it slides off, occasionally it will pull my jacket downwards & the number off. But frankly it's far more likely to be yanked off by someone who wants a trophy in a confrontational situation. The removeability guidance isn't given to us: we don't make the kit. The only guidance we get is to wear the things, which I can safely say happens 99.999999% of the time.

I have nothing to hide. I don't care if someone identifies my number.

 

[BN9 BHA]

No indeed - that might be the case. Your heavy story is of some concern though given that guidance given to police officers ( and their commanders ) is that epaulettes should not be easy removable. If a bag can knock them off them a bit of a scuffle is hardly likely to keep them in place. Regardless the other points remain valid.

Good points about the uniform.

 

[melias shoes]

Thank goodness for them doing that, so the police are doing something right.

 

[Buzzer]

what's not to like?

Disproportionate sentencing, harassment and intimidation, inappropriate use of obscure laws, lack of accountability, onerous conditions put on travelling fans (kettling, collecting tickets from service stations, metal fences across roads), games at silly times on silly days, reduced numbers of away fans.

It saddens me to say that the police still don't give a toss about what effect their rules are having on our game.

 

[edna krabappel]

And to clarify (with the exception of covert operations) when asked a Police Officer is obliged to give you their name and their station. They may also provide their collar number.

Surely that would depend upon the circumstances in which you asked them?

 

[seagurn]

banning orders , filming, taking photographs, informers, putting up faces in the local press you name it
regards
DR

A lot of our own fans do some of the above... sneaky pictures and videos nearly plastic plod.eh?

 

[Dandyman]

Surely that would depend upon the circumstances in which you asked them?

I'll probably let you off if you are getting a pint in.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Joking surely? I'm not saying Sussex are innocent but South Yorkshire and the Met are the low benchmarks in my opinion. I know I give them loads of grief but the way their police liaison officer treats the Palace Ultras is nothing short of harassment. He used to be at Charlton but is now banned from the ground, I beileve, his reputation is that bad.

Even so, this report shows that footie fans are soft targets. Those Albion fans that fought the Spurs mob a few years back got jailed for something they'd have got a caution for if it had been down West Street on any given weekend.

exactly, watching a police program on BBC1 last night filmed in Luton ,BLOKE GOT PULLED UP ON HIS MOTORBIKE and put in the back of the police car, resisted arrest and stabbed one of the OB IN THE FACE TWO TIMES WITH THE MOTORBIKE KEY in the struggle AND ENDED UP DOING 9 MONTHS , heard that one of the chaps that got done for spurs had no previous but got a year and never threw a punch, work that one out
regards
DR

 

[edna krabappel]

I'll probably let you off if you are getting a pint in.

So long as I make the game this weekend & don't end up in Balcombe

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

A lot of our own fans do some of the above... sneaky pictures and videos nearly plastic plod.eh?

yes mate
regards
DR

 

[BN9 BHA]

A lot of our own fans do some of the above... sneaky pictures and videos nearly plastic plod.eh?

True, how many fans across the country have been dropped in it by a Youtube vid?

 

[Buzzer]

exactly, watching a police program on BBC1 last night filmed in Luton ,BLOKE GOT PULLED UP ON HIS MOTORBIKE and put in the back of the police car, resisted arrest and stabbed one of the OB IN THE FACE TWO TIMES WITH THE MOTORBIKE KEY in the struggle AND ENDED UP DOING 9 MONTHS , heard that one of the chaps that got done for spurs had no previous but got a year and never threw a punch, work that one out
regards
DR

Exactly - first offence, never been in trouble before and had a job and family. I'm not excusing his actions but a jail sentence for a first tilme offence is ridicuous. What purpose does it serve? Costs the taxpayer a fortune and ruins a life for a moment's stupidity. A 3 year ban, fine and suspended sentence at worst would have been sufficient.

 

[seagurn]

It's probably a cost thing. Pretty sure it is in Sussex anyway, as their budget is less than many forces.

Each officer has at the very minimum a stab vest, lightweight & heavyweight jackets, and fleeces that would require identifying marks.

To issue kit with names/numbers sewn on would be pretty expensive as an initial outlay. Then take into account officers who leave (and whose kit thus can't be recycled/ passed on), ones who get promoted (and thus require new insignia), and ones who change names through marriage (which in our case would usually mean a new warrant number)- they'd all have to be issued with new sets of kit every time.

And that's before you start renewing kit that gets torn, contaminated, worn out. It would lead to huge wastage.

Hence everyone (where I work) gets issued with sets of epaulettes to fit the different bits of kit & button them on accordingly. Not ideal but I don't know what the answer is without a large cost implication.

With regard to the bag thing, I only meant that if I'm carrying something really heavy over my shoulder & it slides off, occasionally it will pull my jacket downwards & the number off. But frankly it's far more likely to be yanked off by someone who wants a trophy in a confrontational situation. The removeability guidance isn't given to us: we don't make the kit. The only guidance we get is to wear the things, which I can safely say happens 99.999999% of the time.

I have nothing to hide. I don't care if someone identifies my number.

You need a pc or wpc or comunity officer sow and sow !!!