Celtic after Barnes

[One Teddy Maybank]

Yes I think he is technically good and improving all the time. He can control most balls with ease and he has vision in his passing which he does instinctively, his lay off for the goal on Saturday was inch perfect and split the defence. He panics in front of goal at times but maybe if he had a run as an out and out striker this would improve too.

I would be pretty upset if we sold him, even for a decent fee. I am a big Barnes fan and whenever I speak to a Barnes hater I know it's gonna be somebody who has a totally different view on football to me and 90% of the time I'm right.

Great post!

 

[Fitzcarraldo]

Yes I think he is technically good and improving all the time. He can control most balls with ease and he has vision in his passing which he does instinctively, his lay off for the goal on Saturday was inch perfect and split the defence. He panics in front of goal at times but maybe if he had a run as an out and out striker this would improve too.

I would be pretty upset if we sold him, even for a decent fee. I am a big Barnes fan and whenever I speak to a Barnes hater I know it's gonna be somebody who has a totally different view on football to me and 90% of the time I'm right.

But where do you think that he fits into the system we play? At the point of a front three? On the wing? Or does the formation we play need to be adapted to fit him in?

I believe that we play the correct formation and it works if we play two genuine wingers. The Palace at home game last season being a perfect case in point. He certainly isn't a genuine winger. I also don't think he is a good enough player to occupy defences at the point of an attacking three. And I certainly don't think that he is an important enough player to bother changing the formation to accommodate him. What he does bring to the team is a bit of steel, he will run around a lot and put himself about. That I do appreciate about him and certainly at some points it is needed, but I don't think, overall, it is beneficial to have an attacker in the team as wasteful in front of goal as he is.

 

[portslade seagull]

Barnes is a lot better than most on here think and it will be another Murray scenario if he goes ... I would rate 2nd behind ulloa

 

[durrington gull]

Sky Sports:

@SkySportsPeteO: Celtic are keeping tabs on Brighton's Ashley Barnes as Neil Lennon looks to bring in a new striker to Parkhead. #Celtic #BHAFC

Lets hope he's off for a reasonable price

 

[TSB]

3.5 million.......that would be amazing.....my guess would be 750k

Your guessing is clearly as good as your player analysis.

 

[theonesmith]

But where do you think that he fits into the system we play? At the point of a front three? On the wing? Or does the formation we play need to be adapted to fit him in?

I believe that we play the correct formation and it works if we play two genuine wingers. The Palace at home game last season being a perfect case in point. He certainly isn't a genuine winger. I also don't think he is a good enough player to occupy defences at the point of an attacking three. And I certainly don't think that he is an important enough player to bother changing the formation to accommodate him. What he does bring to the team is a bit of steel, he will run around a lot and put himself about. That I do appreciate about him and certainly at some points it is needed, but I don't think, overall, it is beneficial to have an attacker in the team as wasteful in front of goal as he is.

Agree with you on all points.

 

[Lawson]

I really hope he doesn't go unless it works out well for both parties, however i can't see him being interested in a move to Celtic where his career would stagnate at a time when he is looking to make that push and play at premiership level.

 

[Commander]

Love Barnes, hope this isn't true. The people who don't rate him tend to have a very limited understanding of the game. He's the classic 'managers and players rate, supporters don't' player. Which tells you all you need to know really. Heskey had the same problem, your average idiot football fan would say he was shit, yet the likes of Sven and Cappello thought he was great. I know who's opinion I'd rather listen to.

 

[Biscuit]

Barnes is class. Haters, deal with it.

I'd be gutted to lose him. He's a natural striker and his movement is spot on. He is also only 23. His best years are ahead of him and I hope he's wearing Brighton colours when he's 26/27/28 because I think he could tear the Championship a new one.

 

[ATFC Seagull]

Why not? (Serious question). They paid £1.5m for Virgo....

If the Peterboro forward is worth £4.5m, what price Barnes £5.5m? £6.5m?

Celtic probably have funds burning a hole in their pocket Champions League, Gary Hooper cash.....

Celtic won't have sold Hooper for 5mil just to spend it all on an attempt to replace him. They are looking for a "new" Hooper, ie someone they can sign for cheap, improve the value of, then sell on. I can personally see exactly why they've identified Barnes.

Can't see them spending more than 1-2 mil here.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Ash is staying. He's got far too much about him for us to let him go for a sub-par figure.

Good. Those who don't rate Barnes can't see beyond the end of their noses or are on a wind up.

 

[ATFC Seagull]

I really hope he doesn't go unless it works out well for both parties, however i can't see him being interested in a move to Celtic where his career would stagnate at a time when he is looking to make that push and play at premiership level.

Hooper's career certainly didn't stagnate. If I am desperately honest, I think 2 good seasons in the SPL and Champions League are a better bet as a route to the Premiership than staying with us.

 

[Footsoldier]

Id let him go if a club was serious. One year left on his contract. Sell, sell sell.

 

[Eggman]

Yes I think he is technically good and improving all the time. He can control most balls with ease and he has vision in his passing which he does instinctively, his lay off for the goal on Saturday was inch perfect and split the defence. He panics in front of goal at times but maybe if he had a run as an out and out striker this would improve too.

I would be pretty upset if we sold him, even for a decent fee. I am a big Barnes fan and whenever I speak to a Barnes hater I know it's gonna be somebody who has a totally different view on football to me and 90% of the time I'm right.

Dis.

 

[MICK PATCHAM]

hands off ! bloody bead worriers!

 

[Eggman]

Love Barnes, hope this isn't true. The people who don't rate him tend to have a very limited understanding of the game. He's the classic 'managers and players rate, supporters don't' player. Which tells you all you need to know really. Heskey had the same problem, your average idiot football fan would say he was shit, yet the likes of Sven and Cappello thought he was great. I know who's opinion I'd rather listen to.

Dis.

 

[TSB]

He won't go for anymore than £1m seeing as he has 11 months on his contract left.

I'd forgotten that. £2 mill more likely though. Would be a huge waste of potential, especially seeing as Plymouth have a sell-on!!

 

[Eggman]

Barnes is class. Haters, deal with it.

I'd be gutted to lose him. He's a natural striker and his movement is spot on. He is also only 23. His best years are ahead of him and I hope he's wearing Brighton colours when he's 26/27/28 because I think he could tear the Championship a new one.

And dis.

 

[Footsoldier]

I'd forgotten that. £2 mill more likely though. Would be a huge waste of potential, especially seeing as Plymouth have a sell-on!!

So much potential that Gus and the club have allowed his contract to run down that now the ball is in his court.

 

[TSB]

So much potential that Gus and the club have allowed his contract to run down that now the ball is in his court.

Believe we exercised our one year option on him. Which means we'll be paying him a lot less per week than we would have been.
He had enough potential to play forty games (32 more than Vicente managed) for the team that finished 4th in the Championship last year.