4th July

[Jim Van Winkle]

Can't believe Honey Boo Boo child didn't make the list.

Some terribly myopic stereotyping going on in this thread. Every country has it's fair share of ignorant people, the UK is no different.

Happy 4th of July. I am enjoying the day off work, with a beer and looking forward to a BBQ tonight.

Also, I woke up this morning and had sex with my hot, blonde, busty wife. Who has a PhD. I hate those ignorant Americans.

 

[martyn20]

You've never heard of speculation then?

Rich people laid claim to land outside their boarders and sold it to other people, who, when the 13 colonies expanded into this land, could prove ownership and work it. 'America' was/is very fertile land. I know America did not exist. Thats why I called them the 13 conlonies.

Its not hard to see that the 'Americans', loyal or not, were going to be hemmed in.

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John Adams, Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin will be turning in their graves, you really think the American Revolution was about expansionism?

 

[Stoo82]

John Adams, Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin will be turning in their graves, you really think the American Revolution was about expansionism?

After they gained inderpendence, what did they do?

 

[martyn20]

After they gained inderpendence, what did they do?

They were a coalition of very different states and only just came together after the abuse they received from the King and Britain, to try and say they were acting together as one unit and one government before the revolution is incorrect.
They only really started acting as a country shortly before they got a President in the late 1780's, 10 years after the revolution and the Declaration of Independence.
When you talk speculation you are talking about fields or farms being bought and sold by individuals, very different from a country expanding into lands owned by it's neighbours like Israel does so well.

 

[Lyndhurst 14]

I've been to the US a fair few times and travelled all over the country.
I can say with hand on heart that the majority of Americans are the most hospitable and welcoming people I have ever come across.

Maybe some on this board have been watching too many movies and haven't actually been to the USA to judge for themselves.

I've lived in the States for a while and that's certainly been my experience ~ Happy 4th of July to all Albion fans based in the US

 

[catfish]

Oliver Hardy is my favourite American - I love the guy.

 

[jimhigham]

Edward Snowdon.

 

[Captain Sensible]

Worst thing they ever done, gaining independence from us. All it allowed them to do was create sh*t sports and spell words differently.

That said, it's got to be Kimberly Wyatt. The OP must have a liking for ugly yank birds. Cher, Sally Jesse R? Faces like bags of spanners.

I find the reference to spanners quite unfair. I quite like spanners and socket sets. A bag of them would not be unattractive to me. Having said that if the spanners and sockets were all messy, all sort of thrown into the bag, then that would be generally unappealing. But a bag full of organised spanners and sockets would just about do the trick, it would be a very attractive sight indeed.

 

[HovaGirl]

John Adams, Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin will be turning in their graves, you really think the American Revolution was about expansionism?

The history of the United States is the history of its expansionism. From the day the Mayflower landed, British and other European settlers spread all over the habitable North American territories until they reached the west coast, and ran out of land. They fought for territory, bought territory and the only thing that stopped them going further, was the borders with Mexico and Canada, and the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans. Since then, they have joined in with many conflicts in order to increase American power and influence, and now, proudly, call themselves the "policeman of the world". But they had one more expansionist ace up their sleeve and put men on the moon with thoughts of establishing a colony there, but that, obviously, proved far too expensive and impractical. Now, they just busy themselves with trying to influence the Middle East, particularly Israel, and particularly with their interest in black gold.

 

[LargeHadronZugzwang]

My choice would be Chomsky amongst many others as well as good ordinary citizens. That said if everyone lived like
Americans we would need 7 more planets (Europeans 4) The American Dream is over, only really ever a fantasy anyway.
A nation in decline with massive over consumption anduseless military over spending. US has no choice but to collapse well or make a bloody transition which will not be pretty in the least.

 

[Bakero]

The history of the United States is the history of its expansionism. From the day the Mayflower landed, British and other European settlers spread all over the habitable North American territories until they reached the west coast, and ran out of land. They fought for territory, bought territory and the only thing that stopped them going further, was the borders with Mexico and Canada, and the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans. Since then, they have joined in with many conflicts in order to increase American power and influence, and now, proudly, call themselves the "policeman of the world". But they had one more expansionist ace up their sleeve and put men on the moon with thoughts of establishing a colony there, but that, obviously, proved far too expensive and impractical. Now, they just busy themselves with trying to influence the Middle East, particularly Israel, and particularly with their interest in black gold.

I think Mexicans might disagree with the assertion that the Mexican border stopped them going further.

 

[The Lemming Stomper]

Also, I woke up this morning and had sex with my hot, blonde, busty wife. Who has a PhD.

 

[livingston seagull]

I've been to the US a fair few times and travelled all over the country.
I can say with hand on heart that the majority of Americans are the most hospitable and welcoming people I have ever come across.

Maybe some on this board have been watching too many movies and haven't actually been to the USA to judge for themselves.

Exactly THIS!

I was borne there and can confirm whole heartedly!

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

Frank Zappa

Very good call.

From a completely different field, I have just been reminded on the radio of Naom Chomsky, but not sure if he is actually American,

PS - also just seen Chomsky gets a mention above.

 

[Turnstile Ted]

Can,t believe the anti American feelings expressed by some on here.Having lived,(in Canada) but within 50 miles of the U.S. border for over 30 years I came to feel the U.S as my second home.My experience of the American people has been most positive. I found them pleasant,helpful,friendly, and find the anti American sentiment in this country most distasteful.People have short memories.Cast your mind back to W.W.2.Without their assistance the ending could have been very different.

 

[Landgull]

Happy 4th July everyone.

In honour of this momentous occassion who is your favourite American??

Wow half of them I have never heard of.

 

[martyn20]

The history of the United States is the history of its expansionism. From the day the Mayflower landed, British and other European settlers spread all over the habitable North American territories until they reached the west coast, and ran out of land. They fought for territory, bought territory and the only thing that stopped them going further, was the borders with Mexico and Canada, and the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans. Since then, they have joined in with many conflicts in order to increase American power and influence, and now, proudly, call themselves the "policeman of the world". But they had one more expansionist ace up their sleeve and put men on the moon with thoughts of establishing a colony there, but that, obviously, proved far too expensive and impractical. Now, they just busy themselves with trying to influence the Middle East, particularly Israel, and particularly with their interest in black gold.

But the first expansion of America happened 25 years after the Declaration of Independence, it's not right as the person I was replying to was saying that the War was just about that issue and nothing to do with taxes and taxation without representation.

 

[Helter Skelter]

Dave Grohl.

 

[Baron Pepperpot]

Is there a 'really don't give a toss' category ?

 

[Cars]

The marshmallow man R.I.P