So, it's not the benefits immigrants are after then.

[Baron Pepperpot]

If you knew anyone who was from Romania then you would know they are people like you and also what proud, how hard working people who are pleased to see the back of communism they on the whole are. Just have a think, England always has been an immigrant country, from the Romans, to the Saxons, to the Vikings, to the Normans to 1 in 4 sailors at Trafalgar being black, to the immigration after the end of Empire, and that is for me just fantastic. I love London because it is international, and it is London that pays for the rest of the country, (hat Im afraid is a simple economic fact). It is therefore the international community that helps pay for the rest of England. Its a change of mindset but an international outlook is something that is changing England for the better,in my view in any event.

Yes, and I like your handle that refers to Working Class, rather than 'White working class'. I know I'm a bit of a marxist, but the working class still very much exists and ,as your post seems to acknowledge, is made up of folk of all different ethnic backgrounds. Once we stop dividing by race and religion we get London. A great city and indeed, the cash cow of the nation.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

According to UKIP, 29 million Bulgarians and Romanians could be coming.

That's the entire population of both countries.....

So can we conclude that:

Britain, one of the less welcoming countries, is the place everyone wants to go. Including the elderly and infirm.

and...

All of them have the facility to get here.

UKIP and the Daily Mail, your reliable source of weekly hatred and bile.

Now for the disabled.....

What UKIP and the Daily Mail say are correct on this matter. The door is open 29,000,000 people who have unrestricted access to our jobs market, if they want.
There is no hatred in what they say here, that is the truth.

 

[Questions]

As long as those Transylvanians don't come over I don't care. Building bloody great castles everywhere and biting your neck.

 

[St Patricks Day]

Immigrants to EU countries less likely to live on benefits

Have a great Easter everyone.

Soon as I saw The Guardian I didn't bother reading the articale as they are so far left that they'd have you thinking Abu Qatada is a nice man who pays his taxes.

 

[St Patricks Day]

According to UKIP, 29 million Bulgarians and Romanians could be coming.

That's the entire population of both countries.....

So can we conclude that:

Britain, one of the less welcoming countries, is the place everyone wants to go. Including the elderly and infirm.

and...

All of them have the facility to get here.

UKIP and the Daily Mail, your reliable source of weekly hatred and bile.

Now for the disabled.....

Labour told us only about 15,000 immigrants would come a year and UKIP said more like 300,000 a year. UKIP were wrong as over 4,miilion came in Labours term in office so when UKIP say 29,000,000 have the right to come then I expect millions will turn up looking for free houses and benefits.

 

[Baron Pepperpot]

What UKIP and the Daily Mail say are correct on this matter. The door is open 29,000,000 people who have unrestricted access to our jobs market, if they want.
There is no hatred in what they say here, that is the truth.

The point being that so have 450 million others for some time.....

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Soon as I saw The Guardian I didn't bother reading the articale as they are so far left that they'd have you thinking Abu Qatada is a nice man who pays his taxes.

It was reported in The Guardian but not commissioned by them.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

The point being that so have 450 million others for some time.....

And I'm not stupid enough to believe that 29,000,000 people are all going to come over to the UK.

 

[Soulman]

Soon as I saw The Guardian I didn't bother reading the articale as they are so far left that they'd have you thinking Abu Qatada is a nice man who pays his taxes.

Yep, same here.
Before we get the bandwagon clingers.....i don't read the Daily Mail either.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I expect millions will turn up looking for free houses and benefits.

FFS. If you join a thread please have the decency to at least get the gist of the opening post even if you dont want to read it all. It saves us wasting time and prevents you looking dumb.

 

[Baron Pepperpot]

And I'm not stupid enough to believe that 29,000,000 people are all going to come over to the UK.

Although UKIP have tried to convince the electorate.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

Although UKIP have tried to convince the electorate.

What they have managed to do is force the issue of free movement. Now the other parties are talking about it, because they are losing voters on this one issue. You know that already.

 

[Baron Pepperpot]

Labour told us only about 15,000 immigrants would come a year and UKIP said more like 300,000 a year. UKIP were wrong as over 4,miilion came in Labours term in office so when UKIP say 29,000,000 have the right to come then I expect millions will turn up looking for free houses and benefits.

Although they cannot claim benefits as soon as they arrive, as some claim. Although only a tiny proportion get access to housing stock, and it's always the worst kind, as some don't claim. Although significantly less percentages of arrivals claim benefits at all than natives, let alone against what some 'natives' actually claim.... Although many go home, as indeed a lot of Poles are doing at present. Although they tend to fill jobs that Brits would rather not do... Although their net contribution to the ecomony is higher than their take...

I could go on with the facts, they are so much duller than the fantasy though.

 

[Soulman]

Although UKIP have tried to convince the electorate.

Seems to be working. Neither link from the DM or the Guardian.
Lawrence Webb becomes first UKIP councillor in London following Havering Council by-election - News - Romford Recorder

THREE sitting councillors have defected to UKIP, it was announced today.
Three councillors defect to UKIP From The Northern Echo)

 

[St Patricks Day]

FFS. If you join a thread please have the decency to at least get the gist of the opening post even if you dont want to read it all. It saves us wasting time and prevents you looking dumb.

Fuuny isn't how the government refuse to release how many they think will come. If I was a Bulgarian or Romanian then I'd have my carrier bag packed and waiting.

 

[Baron Pepperpot]

Seems to be working. Neither link from the DM or the Guardian.
Lawrence Webb becomes first UKIP councillor in London following Havering Council by-election - News - Romford Recorder

THREE sitting councillors have defected to UKIP, it was announced today.
Three councillors defect to UKIP From The Northern Echo)

At least It's better than the BNP, although if you look at some of the UKIP forums you get an idea of a worrying cancerous underbelly.

Whatever UKIP do now is ultimately to little effect long term. Once they are in a position to gain a credible foothold they will be examined more thoroughly. Then the wheels will come off very quickly.

 

[Nibble]

Well, it's pretty obvious what's going to happen isn't it. They'll turn up rape everyone, give us all black AIDS, use a copy of The Guardian instead of a defence solicitor, be set free to plant bombs and carjack mother's as they drop their children off at the school gates, take all the strawbery picking jobs in central London, eat smelly currys and throw the nappies at our War Veterans, turn all our churches into 30000 person dormitories for their crack addicted pitbulls, close down all our fish and chip shops and turn them into nuclear mosque bunkers, publically flog the un-born child of William and Kate while she recites the Qu'ran, replace all our newsreaders with middle aged sex criminals with bombs instead of heads and ban cricket. You just see if they don't.

 

[Grombleton]

Although UKIP have tried to convince the electorate.

Personally, UKIP are a bigger threat to the UK than any 'immigrants' are.

 

[St Patricks Day]

Well, it's pretty obvious what's going to happen isn't it. They'll turn up rape everyone, give us all black AIDS, use a copy of The Guardian instead of a defence solicitor, be set free to plant bombs and carjack mother's as they drop their children off at the school gates, take all the strawbery picking jobs in central London, eat smelly currys and throw the nappies at our War Veterans, turn all our churches into 30000 person dormitories for their crack addicted pitbulls, close down all our fish and chip shops and turn them into nuclear mosque bunkers, publically flog the un-born child of William and Kate while she recites the Qu'ran, replace all our newsreaders with middle aged sex criminals with bombs instead of heads and ban cricket. You just see if they don't.

Didn't know Bulgarians and Romanians were Muslims.

 

[Nibble]

Personally, UKIP are a bigger threat to the UK than any 'immigrants' are.

Ukip are about as much of a threat to this country as Rolf Harris is to..oh wait.