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GoldWithFalmer

Seaweed! Seaweed!
Apr 24, 2011
12,687
SouthCoast
Palace are running their club well these days, they have to be given credit for that. But they should been forced to call themselves Crystal Palace 2010..

We will always stay in front of them,from here on in,for this reason.................we have the capacity to lord it up and do the top flight in the Brighton way of staying down,working hard,making sacrifice,getting the breaks (Bloom) and building our reputation.

Or we can do it the Palace way of being deluded,playing above our status,borrowing left right and center,in a run down delapidated stadium,with 50000 fickle plastics that will disapear within 4 years of our record gate in the top flight and serve 2 administrations and still be ok,not sure we could do it a 3rd time but that's the way it goes.

As for Palace they have no such luxury.

When the alarm clock goes off on the dawn of this brave new Brighton era,please wake me.
 




EDS

Banned
Nov 11, 2012
2,040
Did you get your penny in the pound as season ticket holders like all the other creditors or not?
I thought not, so you had a vote without losing anything and ensured all the people who were owed money just got a penny. Shrewd move.

You never answered the question? you just asked me one, try again.
 


seagullsovergrimsby

#cpfctinpotclub
Aug 21, 2005
43,692
Crap Town
Did you get your penny in the pound as season ticket holders like all the other creditors or not?
I thought not, so you had a vote without losing anything and ensured all the people who were owed money just got a penny. Shrewd move.

Palace STH's effectively got back 100% as their season tickets were honoured. Everyone else including Tangoman got 1p in the £
 




EDS

Banned
Nov 11, 2012
2,040
I would say, I think most clubs fans would do anything to save their club. Don't mean I would be proud of what the club and fans have done.
So are you now about to answer mine.

To be honest I never put myself as a creditor, my nan was dying of a brain tumour at the time and to be honest I could not give two shites about football at that time. They did have a right to register themselves as creditors though.
 




5 Zero

New member
Jul 13, 2011
1,174
We will always stay in front of them,from here on in,for this reason.................we have the capacity to lord it up and do the top flight in the Brighton way of staying down,working hard,making sacrifice,getting the breaks (Bloom) and building our reputation.

Or we can do it the Palace way of being deluded,playing above our status,borrowing left right and center,in a run down delapidated stadium,with 50000 fickle plastics that will disapear within 4 years of our record gate in the top flight and serve 2 administrations and still be ok,not sure we could do it a 3rd time but that's the way it goes.

As for Palace they have no such luxury.

When the alarm clock goes off on the dawn of this brave new Brighton era,please wake me.

Defence mechanism to make you feel better about the current situation, that's all the above drivel is. There was nothing immoral in what we did, that would imply that Jordan intentionally went out his way to overspend. Why would he do that and risk shit or bust, he's not a gambler. What happened was bad buisness decisions at crucial times mixed in with a combination of unlucky circumstances and a dodgy lender. Out actual CLUB debt was £4.3 million, half of what you lost last year, and would have been paid off just through the sale of Victor Moses but he was sold on the cheap in a panic. Agilo then screwed us and Jordan over big time. Jordan had since said that he was devasted and perplexed by what they did, not in the in fact that he lost all his money but what admin meant to the club, it almost killed us.

Anyway, back to today and once again the team of freebies show up Sugar Daddy Albion FC, as we get a decent point at fortress Selhurst, (yes, you guessed it, FFS scored just like he will next Sunday) whilst the Chanpionships Barca once again fail to score and suffer defeat to agent Freedman. Enjoy your evening lads, but please, do mind that gap.
 


Soulman

New member
Oct 22, 2012
10,966
Sompting
Defence mechanism to make you feel better about the current situation, that's all the above drivel is. There was nothing immoral in what we did, that would imply that Jordan intentionally went out his way to overspend. Why would he do that and risk shit or bust, he's not a gambler. What happened was bad buisness decisions at crucial times mixed in with a combination of unlucky circumstances and a dodgy lender. Out actual CLUB debt was £4.3 million, half of what you lost last year, and would have been paid off just through the sale of Victor Moses but he was sold on the cheap in a panic. Agilo then screwed us and Jordan over big time. Jordan had since said that he was devasted and perplexed by what they did, not in the in fact that he lost all his money but what admin meant to the club, it almost killed us.

Anyway, back to today and once again the team of freebies show up Sugar Daddy Albion FC, as we get a decent point at fortress Selhurst, (yes, you guessed it, FFS scored just like he will next Sunday) whilst the Chanpionships Barca once again fail to score and suffer defeat to agent Freedman. Enjoy your evening lads, but please, do mind that gap.

TBH, i'm not really interested......... no disrespect, but i'm really not.
I just enjoy going to a great stadium, looking around at the rolling hills and countryside, and watching the game. Probably the best location in the country for a day out for football.
I'm sure many on your own board feel the same way eh.
 


churley1

New member
Oct 13, 2009
1,089
Bogota
TBH, i'm not really interested......... no disrespect, but i'm really not.
I just enjoy going to a great stadium, looking around at the rolling hills and countryside, and watching the game. Probably the best location in the country for a day out for football.
I'm sure many on your own board feel the same way eh.



Bizarre post.

Rolling hills and countryside is exactly where a football ground should not be. A fantastic stadium it may be, but the location is absolutely dreadful and the duration to/from Brighton Station is a testament to this although I know there were no genuine alternatives to Falmer.

That is a whole, other subject though!
 






Soulman

New member
Oct 22, 2012
10,966
Sompting
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Bizarre post.

Rolling hills and countryside is exactly where a football ground should not be. A fantastic stadium it may be, but the location is absolutely dreadful and the duration to/from Brighton Station is a testament to this although I know there were no genuine alternatives to Falmer.

That is a whole, other subject though!

And a bizarre post from someone who's location is Bogota.......and i love the location, having been to grounds stuck in the middle of terraced houses, chip shops and doggie bags.
 


croydonian69

Banned
Jan 31, 2013
17
No promotion 4 u and your finnished end of,we got money see u in another decade after sunday murrey mint is going to doom u 21655_172659492880580_1753704082_n.jpg
 




beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,368
...Out actual CLUB debt was £4.3 million

no it was £30m. one debt was for £4.3m from Agilo. another was the taxman who initially petitioned for winding up iirc, Agilo called in administrators to secure their investment (and ironically your club - winding up would have been instant death). if you had a total debt of £4.3m you wouldnt have been in any trouble.

i hope for your sake there are others who dont take your blinkered view of recent history so they understand if/when it occurs again and can react early. for example, you should always be wary and mindful about how the owners insisted in a cap on the profits of any resale of the ground, only an issue if they were ever to sell the ground - shirley you can see the implications here? and before you cry on about Bloom loaning us money, thats exactly the point, we dont have outside third parties that could come and spoil it all.
 








GoldWithFalmer

Seaweed! Seaweed!
Apr 24, 2011
12,687
SouthCoast
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Bizarre post.

Rolling hills and countryside is exactly where a football ground should not be. A fantastic stadium it may be, but the location is absolutely dreadful and the duration to/from Brighton Station is a testament to this although I know there were no genuine alternatives to Falmer.

That is a whole, other subject though!

It's fine,Port Vale is far worse a trip to make.
 


fosters headband

Well-known member
Aug 15, 2003
5,158
Brighton
Defence mechanism to make you feel better about the current situation, that's all the above drivel is. There was nothing immoral in what we did, that would imply that Jordan intentionally went out his way to overspend. Why would he do that and risk shit or bust, he's not a gambler. What happened was bad buisness decisions at crucial times mixed in with a combination of unlucky circumstances and a dodgy lender. Our actual CLUB debt was £4.3 million, half of what you lost last year, and would have been paid off just through the sale of Victor Moses but he was sold on the cheap in a panic. Agilo then screwed us and Jordan over big time. Jordan had since said that he was devasted and perplexed by what they did, not in the in fact that he lost all his money but what admin meant to the club, it almost killed us.

Anyway, back to today and once again the team of freebies show up Sugar Daddy Albion FC, as we get a decent point at fortress Selhurst, (yes, you guessed it, FFS scored just like he will next Sunday) whilst the Chanpionships Barca once again fail to score and suffer defeat to agent Freedman. Enjoy your evening lads, but please, do mind that gap.

Please tell me then, the combined £15 mill owed to the HRMC and Lloyds on the creditors list do you consider this money gifts?
And why did the HRMC put in a winding up order against Palace before Agilo put you into administration to safeguard their money?
 


Paul Skinback

New member
Oct 3, 2009
504
I don’t blame any Palace fans (except Messrs Goldberg and Jordan) for their having been in administration twice. However, it’s a different matter when they crow about how much better than us they have performed, but fail to take comparative financial practice into account.

But we had to start again after selling players, bringing kids in and only just, 10 minutes from time survived relegation. What no-one has said is that our new owners had to buy our ground and then set up the company again costing in the region of £20m. And as they continually say, running a football club, yours, ours, EVERY club with the exception of 3 i think, they all lose money. Steve Browett once posted that money surrounding our club was one way....in. The money for Wilf will pay towards the academy, new stadium, new training ground and maybe a player or two.
We aslo have 4 fellas who only have the clubs best interest a heart as Tony Bloom does for you.
Anyhow, back to the banter, i hope the Chelski left back plays on Sunday, he'll have whiplsh and/or a red card by the time Wilf finishes with him and the kid Williams is on fire too. We'll not go there about 30.
 


fosters headband

Well-known member
Aug 15, 2003
5,158
Brighton
But we had to start again after selling players, bringing kids in and only just, 10 minutes from time survived relegation. What no-one has said is that our new owners had to buy our ground and then set up the company again costing in the region of £20m. And as they continually say, running a football club, yours, ours, EVERY club with the exception of 3 i think, they all lose money. Steve Browett once posted that money surrounding our club was one way....in. The money for Wilf will pay towards the academy, new stadium, new training ground and maybe a player or two.
We aslo have 4 fellas who only have the clubs best interest a heart as Tony Bloom does for you.
Anyhow, back to the banter, i hope the Chelski left back plays on Sunday, he'll have whiplsh and/or a red card by the time Wilf finishes with him and the kid Williams is on fire too. We'll not go there about 30.

Is he for real, £10mill has to a go a long way or is planning on paying for all these at a penny in the pound?
 




Paul Skinback

New member
Oct 3, 2009
504
Is he for real, £10mill has to a go a long way or is planning on paying for all these at a penny in the pound?

He as in me? If you coud read it in the text it was meant to and not in a 'hating Palace way' you could read between the lines that the money will be shared. Don't be a pratt, you write a lot of sense most of the time. If we don't/haven't gone up in 2 years we'll get £20m for Williams, £8-10m for Jedinak and more £m's for Bolasie, that's of course if 30 hasn't asked for a move, maybe another £5m. There's money all over our team, our future for the next 5-10 years looks as secure as it ever has and we are finally in safe hands.
 


He as in me? If you coud read it in the text it was meant to and not in a 'hating Palace way' you could read between the lines that the money will be shared. Don't be a pratt, you write a lot of sense most of the time. If we don't/haven't gone up in 2 years we'll get £20m for Williams, £8-10m for Jedinak and more £m's for Bolasie, that's of course if 30 hasn't asked for a move, maybe another £5m. There's money all over our team, our future for the next 5-10 years looks as secure as it ever has and we are finally in safe hands.

That's a mighty big statement that is. I've heard he's not too shabby but 20million?
 


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