Lee Steele - Homophobe???

[xenophon]

This Is The Season to be Easily Offended

 

[Questions]

You're missing my point entirely, Q.

I'm not saying there is anything wrong with banter or pisstake, Q. My closest mates and I (many of whom are people I know originally through football) absolutely destroy each other, Q.

What I was suggesting, Q, was that anything that is seen as a sign of intelligence is most quickly and brutally jumped on, in the context of a football dressing room, Q.

My mates and I rip the piss out of each mercilessly, Q, but it is rarely for the "crime" of saying something "intelligent". This matey banter exists across all friendship groups and class systems, but the nature of banter is different, Q.

And in my experience the banter - Q - in football changing rooms is generally directed more at the "intelligent" ones/intelligent remarks. Hence, my suggestion that footballers are - or at least seem to want to be - well, a bit thick, Q.

Q.

You talking to me CC ?

 

[hart's shirt]

You're missing my point entirely, Q.

I'm not saying there is anything wrong with banter or pisstake, Q. My closest mates and I (many of whom are people I know originally through football) absolutely destroy each other, Q.

What I was suggesting, Q, was that anything that is seen as a sign of intelligence is most quickly and brutally jumped on, in the context of a football dressing room, Q.

My mates and I rip the piss out of each mercilessly, Q, but it is rarely for the "crime" of saying something "intelligent". This matey banter exists across all friendship groups and class systems, but the nature of banter is different, Q.

And in my experience the banter - Q - in football changing rooms is generally directed more at the "intelligent" ones/intelligent remarks. Hence, my suggestion that footballers are - or at least seem to want to be - well, a bit thick, Q.

Q.

I don't know about homophobia, but the dialogue in the new Bond film doesn't look that gripping.

 

[Man of Harveys]

I don't know about homophobia, but the dialogue in the new Bond film doesn't look that gripping.

You, sir, have emphatically still got "it". Genius.

 

[Lord Bamber]

I don't know about homophobia, but the dialogue in the new Bond film doesn't look that gripping.

Priceless

 

[Lush]

Stop stressing about it all. It's just the way of the world. Women now have the vote, child labour is outlawed, no-one does jokes about thick Irishmen anymore and nowadays people scratch their heads and ask "did people really find comments about "nig-nogs/pakis" acceptable 30 years ago?"

In 30 years they will be saying the same about homophobic comments like this one that Lee Steele made. Society is evolving and it looks like you are going to be left behind, no doubt left to moan about the 'PC brigade' and the good old days when you could call a black bloke 'a spade' (as long as you did it with a smile to let him know you were just joshing with him.)

This is EXACTLY the point. Players don't use racist language or call the black players 'darkie' in dressing rooms (as far as I know). It's no longer acceptable. One day the same will be true of homophobia. This is a GOOD THING. Unfortunately, while attitudes change and evolve there will be a few high-profile casualties.

 

[Chesney Christ]

This is EXACTLY the point. Players don't use racist language or call the black players 'darkie' in dressing rooms (as far as I know). It's no longer acceptable. One day the same will be true of homophobia. This is a GOOD THING. Unfortunately, while attitudes change and evolve there will be a few high-profile casualties.

What about gingers?

 

[Northstandite]

Take it for what it was, a joke, hardly malicious

It would appear in the UK that the days of banter where any other might take offence are over.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

Is this why people (most who think they are very important) put 'these are my views and not my employer'?

Whilst his joke was naive, poor and embarrassing on a school playground level, I don't think he should be sacked for it. A sincere apology should suffice, surely? Expendable, as others have said. If he was a prized asset at a football club, he would have some powerful lawyers on his side.

I guess we have moved on and people need to be aware that we have. If he is not a homophobe, then I hope he finds some alternative employment soon.

Strange that a, seemingly tolerant City (Griffin spoke at OU) were so quick to dismiss him without a chance to apologise.

Silly boy. If you are going to make a 'joke', at least make it funny.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

The question is:- At what point should football clubs take a stand against homophobia in their ranks?

I guess the answer is that, finally, they are starting to do something.

Stainless isn't the first person associated with the Albion to express homophobic sentiments.

 

[El Presidente]

Is it me or is Lee looking a bit uglier than I recall when he played for the Albion?

He could however have a new career in the next Hellraiser movie though

 

[Lush]

What about gingers?

If gingers are beaten up, hospitalised or even killed for being ginger, denied a job for being ginger, or commit suicide because of the pressure of being eg a ginger footballer, then yes we do have a problem.

 

[Simster]

The question is:- At what point should football clubs take a stand against homophobia in their ranks?

I guess the answer is that, finally, they are starting to do something.

Stainless isn't the first person associated with the Albion to express homophobic sentiments.

Indeed. Even as recently as 5 years ago, a comment like Lee Steele's would have been seen as fairly commonplace even if totally unfunny to anyone with a brain. Nowadays it just looks retarded.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

He really has no need to padlock his arse.

 

[steve5213]

Hmmm

I'm a gay man. I admit that on the face of it a throwaway comment like that isn't really offensive, but it's the underlying sentiment which is a bit more worrying. He's physically logged onto Twitter purely to make that statement - what sort of person does that? Why bother? The whole "backs against the wall" stuff got tiresome 20 years ago. It's ironic that a footballer - the profession with more allegations of rape than any other - is perpetuating the myth that gay men are just out to rape them up the arse.

People forget that Twitter is basically your personal company brochure these days. Everything and anything you say will be analysed.

 

[Gullys Cats]

Just another Twit on Twitter, not homophobic.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I'm a gay man.

Would you smash it?

 

[steve5213]

Would you smash it?

Wouldn't touch it with yours.....!

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Wouldn't touch it with yours.....!

 

[Poyetry In Motion]

Steele made a dumb, unfunny and pathetic comment.........So - he'll be working at Talksport by the weekend then