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I'm So glad my taxes are paying for this, what a piss take.









HastingsSeagull

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Jan 13, 2010
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Mental, why was she even given more than a day's treatment for free? Sure et he go private or go home, I wouldn't get free treatment in much of the world, why should she here. Also blatant she knew exactly what she was doing. Her own mess taking overdoses of drugs anyway!
 


pasty

A different kind of pasty
Jul 5, 2003
31,753
West, West, West Sussex
And she ended up getting the best treatment possible on the NHS following an emergency Health Service scan which showed she was expecting four babies.

So the best treatment possible misses one baby then :laugh:
 






The Spanish

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west africa is currently having a field day at londons expense. this is happening all the time. i dont know how this west african thing started but its way way out of control. still as long as they are not living in brighton or using the royal sussex no one here will really give a toss.
 


The Grockle

Formally Croydon Seagull
Sep 26, 2008
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I agree it's a piss take but for me no more of a liberty than the tens of thousands of white English scum families who spend their whole life on benefits, smoking and eating shit costing the NHS millions.

I suspect had the lady in question been from somewhere like Germany and not Nigeria the sun wouldn't have picked up on it, they know the average Sun reader loves a story like this.
 


Waynflete

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Nov 10, 2009
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i dont know how this west african thing started but its way way out of control.

This comment caught my attention. You could argue that 'this West African thing' started with the slave trade, and continued through colonisation by European powers. It then proceeded through the post-war years when there was a labour shortage and the UK invited people from Commonwealth countries to come and live here to do jobs no-one else wanted, like working on the London Underground.

I'm not offering an opinion on this case, but if you're asking why there are historical links between the UK and West Africa, and consequently why there are quite of lot of Nigerians and Ghanans in London, this is a partial answer.
 




Tyrone Biggums

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i dont know how this west african thing started.

In 1885, British claims to a West African sphere of influence received international recognition and in the following year the Royal Niger Company was chartered under the leadership of Sir George Taubman Goldie. In 1900 the company's territory came under the control of the British government, which moved to consolidate its hold over the area of modern Nigeria. On January 1, 1901 Nigeria became a British protectorate, part of the British Empire, the foremost world power at the time

Like that.
 


adrian29uk

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Sep 10, 2003
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Does wind me up reading stories like this. Usual abuse of our system. Another way to get yourself in the UK looks like to me.
More use of the legal aid system, nice easy money for immigration lawyers. I agree make sure the babies are ok, then she should go back home. There is nothing complicated about it.

Thank you very much labour.
 


The Spanish

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This comment caught my attention. You could argue that 'this West African thing' started with the slave trade, and continued through colonisation by European powers. It then proceeded through the post-war years when there was a labour shortage and the UK invited people from Commonwealth countries to come and live here to do jobs no-one else wanted, like working on the London Underground.

I'm not offering an opinion on this case, but if you're asking why there are historical links between the UK and West Africa, and consequently why there are quite of lot of Nigerians and Ghanans in London, this is a partial answer.

dear oh dear. i am happy to afford you the courtesy of not knowing how well up i am on britains colonial history, current commonwealth ties, or post war migraton to the UK, (not saying I am an expert by any means) and therefore let that breathtakingly patronising response slide, but as you can see Tyrone thinks its a smart repost, so i will simply use his commendation as a reinforcement of my view of it as anything but.

as for getting down to the nitty gritty of this west african thing the comment that caught the attention of your genius, we have seen an exposion in the west african population in london in the last 15-20 years. often with very little to do with the tedious 6th form essay explanation of post war migration rather to do with chain migration false asylum claims and benefit tourism.
 
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ferring seagull

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Dec 30, 2010
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I note what you say about former French and Belgian colonies.

However, and with no intent to be in any way rascist, we are reaping the harvest of our Victorian ancestors conquering substantial parts of the world, incorporating many countries into that Empire, thereby entitling all citizens of that 'New World' to citizenship of not only the British Empire but also of the United Kingdom itself which is what remains of the 'Empire'

I don't necessarily like it but that is what we have created for ourselves !

Please correct me if I am wrong !
 
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Waynflete

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dear oh dear. i am happy to afford you the courtesy of not knowing how well up i am on britains colonial history, current commonwealth ties, or post war migraton to the UK, (not saying I am an expert by any means) and therefore let that breathtakingly patronising response slide, but as you can see Tyrone thinks its a smart repost, so i will simply use his commendation as a reinforcement of my view of it as anything but.

I was replying to your statement of 'I don't know how this West African thing started', and assumed therefore that, er, you didn't know how it started. Sorry.

as for getting down to the nitty gritty of this west african thing, we have seen an exposion in the west african population in london in the last 15-20 years. often with very little to do with the tedious 6th form essay explanation of post war migration rather to do with chain migration false asylum claims and benefit tourism.

how do you explain the large african population from former french and belgian colonies i have seen flourish in the last 5 years in my local area.

Well I'm not an expert either, but firstly I expect your anecdotal evidence of an explosion of the West African population in London may be exaggerated and/or unrepresentative. The vast majority of immigration into the UK in the past few years has been from eastern Europe.

Secondly, if there have been large numbers of immigrants from former French and Belgian colonies, I expect that will be partly related to the recent history of civil wars and conflicts in Cote d'Ivoire, DR Congo, Central African Republic, Chad etc.

I strongly expect there will be many more people from these countries in Paris than there are in London (just look at the French football team!).

Sorry if I was patronising but your original post gave the impression that you didn't have a clue about the historical context of the situation. Also, the original story was about a Nigerian, not someone from a former French/Belgian colony.
 




The Spanish

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Secondly, if there have been large numbers of immigrants from former French and Belgian colonies, I expect that will be partly related to the recent history of civil wars and conflicts in Cote d'Ivoire, DR Congo, Central African Republic, Chad etc.

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thanks for that i must buy a telly or newspaper one day. you are still doing it. you know full well that i am not asking about the historical context of their arrival in london whether from french belgian british or f***ing faroe islands colonies.

i have found out a lot of peoples back stories by talking to them its my failsafe method of finding things out. the stories i have heard from neighbours and aqquantances about setting up in the UK are staggering. they all think its f***ing hilarious. just because i question the wisdom of a system that allows this doesnt mean i treat the people who use it with distain or suspicion. far from it in many cases.
 


Waynflete

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Nov 10, 2009
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thanks for that i must buy a telly or newspaper one day. you are still doing it. you know full well that i am not asking about the historical context of their arrival in london whether from french belgian british or f***ing faroe islands colonies.

i have found out a lot of peoples back stories by talking to them its my failsafe method of finding things out. the stories i have heard from neighbours and aqquantances about setting up in the UK are staggering. they all think its f***ing hilarious. just because i question the wisdom of a system that allows this doesnt mean i treat the people who use it with distain or suspicion. far from it in many cases.

Okay, sorry again. No need to swear. :shrug:
 


1066familyman

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Jan 15, 2008
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I note what you say about former French and Belgian colonies.

However, and with no intent to be in any way rascist, we are reaping the harvest of our Victorian ancestors conquering substantial parts of the world, incorporating many countries into that Empire, thereby entitling all citizens of that 'New World' to citizenship of not only the British Empire but also of the United Kingdom itself which is what remains of the 'Empire'

I don't necessarily like it but that is what we have created for ourselves !

Please correct me if I am wrong !

You are wrong. No one that isn't born in this country is entitled to citizenship here, regardless of whether they come from an ex colony or not. It should also be pointed out that non EU citizens are not entitled to free health care here either. Gaining citizenship of this country takes a lot of time and expense on the part of the applicant. My wife is Nigerian and now a British citizen who happens to be a trained nurse and midwife but is still struggling to find work here because the old adaptation scheme and the current overseas nursing programme is all a bit of a shambles.
 


Diego Napier

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Mar 27, 2010
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Waynflete & The Spanish; a "debate" between a reasonable man and an angry man, who is whom?
 




The Spanish

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Waynflete & The Spanish; a "debate" between a reasonable man and an angry man, who is whom?

if for reasonable you mean passive agressive then i will happily take the role of angry. now we have a boring one to add to the mix cheers.
 


Jan 30, 2008
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You are wrong. No one that isn't born in this country is entitled to citizenship here, regardless of whether they come from an ex colony or not. It should also be pointed out that non EU citizens are not entitled to free health care here either. Gaining citizenship of this country takes a lot of time and expense on the part of the applicant. My wife is Nigerian and now a British citizen who happens to be a trained nurse and midwife but is still struggling to find work here because the old adaptation scheme and the current overseas nursing programme is all a bit of a shambles.
if find that strange , large areas of the NHS are staffed by foreigners :whistle:you're right about time and expense , sham marriages spring to mind .
 
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