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Queen's visit to Dublin



Brovion

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Haven't seen a thread on this specifically, but what do we all think? Personally I think it's great that the two nations, European partners after all, want to build bridges and make the 21st century a better era in Anglo-Irish relations. No one's saying the past should be forgotten, but neither does it have to be constantly re-created. The general view from the republic (perhaps MYOB can confirm) seems to be favourable overall with the caveat that we haven't quite yet 'solved' Northern Ireland.

However I haven't heard anything from Ulster, especially the Unionists. I know we've got a few on here who sympathise with the Unionists - so how do you feel about the Queen paying her (and our) respects to fallen Republicans?

Try and keep it civil.
 




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Haven't seen a thread on this specifically, but what do we all think? Personally I think it's great that the two nations, European partners after all, want to build bridges and make the 21st century a better era in Anglo-Irish relations. No one's saying the past should be forgotten, but neither does it have to be constantly re-created. The general view from the republic (perhaps MYOB can confirm) seems to be favourable overall with the caveat that we haven't quite yet 'solved' Northern Ireland.

However I haven't heard anything from Ulster, especially the Unionists. I know we've got a few on here who sympathise with the Unionists - so how do you feel about the Queen paying her (and our) respects to fallen Republicans?

Try and keep it civil.
Lets be honest, there are republicans and republicans, havent got a real problem with 1916 era IRA , but would have a major problem with her paying respects to the modern era scumbags.
 


Racek

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Jan 3, 2010
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I hope she throws herself into it. I want to see her pissed up in temple bar, Irish dancing at Johnnie foxes and then finish in Copper face jacks. Thats my girl.
 


Commander

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Apr 28, 2004
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I hope she throws herself into it. I want to see her pissed up in temple bar, Irish dancing at Johnnie foxes and then finish in Copper face jacks. Thats my girl.

I'm not sure even she can afford to drink in Temple Bar these days.
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
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Haven't seen a thread on this specifically, but what do we all think? Personally I think it's great that the two nations, European partners after all, want to build bridges and make the 21st century a better era in Anglo-Irish relations. No one's saying the past should be forgotten, but neither does it have to be constantly re-created. The general view from the republic (perhaps MYOB can confirm) seems to be favourable overall with the caveat that we haven't quite yet 'solved' Northern Ireland.

However I haven't heard anything from Ulster, especially the Unionists. I know we've got a few on here who sympathise with the Unionists - so how do you feel about the Queen paying her (and our) respects to fallen Republicans?

Try and keep it civil.
I don't think NI will ever be "quite yet solved" until there is a democratic concensus across NI to join a united Ireland, however that is 2 or 3 generations away, probably more. Until then, we seem to have a working settlement in place, and this is probably as good a time as any to normalise relations.

I suspect the itinery has been chosen carefully so as to avoid offending all but the most easily offended. I very much doubt we'll see the Queen pay the respect of people like Bobby Sands, bushy, any more than she will visiting any other contentious graves such as the 14 dead innocents from the Bloody Sunday massacre.
 




Seagull over Canaryland

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Feb 8, 2011
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Hope HM's visit gets an ok reception - and this shows how the terrorists are out of touch.

She can look the locals in the eyes 'cos she lost a member of her family during the troubles.

Perhaps not a good time for Prince Phillip to dust off his book of Irish jokes.
 




Racek

Wing man to TFSO top boy.
Jan 3, 2010
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Look them in the eyes? I have been to some places in Dublin where most of them have one eye looking over your shoulder and the other is looking down your left trouser leg.
 




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I suspect the itinery has been chosen carefully so as to avoid offending all but the most easily offended. I very much doubt we'll see the Queen pay the respect of people like Bobby Sands, bushy, any more than she will visiting any other contentious graves such as the 14 dead innocents from the Bloody Sunday massacre.
I tend to agree with you, but never underestimate the tendencies of the foreign office towards craven appeasement, although not the foreign office, a case in point is hirohito's visit after all the atrocities comitted by the japanese.
 


Coleby1007

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Feb 28, 2011
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f*** Ireland, they only gave us 6 points in Eurovision and we gave them 12
 


The Spanish

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Aug 12, 2008
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I tend to agree with you, but never underestimate the tendencies of the foreign office towards craven appeasement, although not the foreign office, a case in point is hirohito's visit after all the atrocities comitted by the japanese.

TB has already apologised on our behalf for the famine too dont forget. I feel better for having that off my chest personally.
 






The Spanish

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Aug 12, 2008
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Agreed mate, I cant visit Bristol without an overwhelming sense of shame at my great-great-great-great-great-great grandfathers involvement in the slave trade.

dont worry ken livingstone has already cried his eyes out live on tv for all of us. funny how people take the mick out of glenn beck for the same thing and no one pulls Ken up on the worst pretend crying to an assembled group of easily impressed simpletons in human history.
 


Scampi

One of the Three
Jun 10, 2009
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Denton
dont worry ken livingstone has already cried his eyes out live on tv for all of us. funny how people take the mick out of glenn beck for the same thing and no one pulls Ken up on the worst pretend crying to an assembled group of easily impressed simpletons in human history.


I had no idea you and Bushy were at that meeting.
 










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