Theo Walcott: Genius winger or just a load of old shite?

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Mar 29, 2010
2,492
Under your skin.
Shite. The most over-rated England player - ever!

Joe Cole and Wight-Phillips are lightyears ahead of him

This. Joe Cole was brilliant when he came on and set up one of the own goals with a cross which was very difficult to defend.

My midfield for the first game would be

Cole - LW
Lampard - CM
Barry/Milner - CM
Wright-Phillips - RM

That midfield with Gerrard playing just behind Rooney would be Quala. If needed Cole and Gerrard could swap as Cole can do a job as the attacking midfielder.
 




sir albion

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Jan 6, 2007
13,055
SWINDON
This. Joe Cole was brilliant when he came on and set up one of the own goals with a cross which was very difficult to defend.

My midfield for the first game would be

Cole - LW
Lampard - CM
Barry/Milner - CM
Wright-Phillips - RM

That midfield with Gerrard playing just behind Rooney would be Quala. If needed Cole and Gerrard could swap as Cole can do a job as the attacking midfielder.
Gerrard is shite for england and i would drop him:)
 


Gully

Monkey in a seagull suit.
Apr 24, 2004
16,812
Way out west
Shite. The most over-rated England player - ever!

Joe Cole and Wight-Phillips are lightyears ahead of him

Maybe not light years...but certainly 7 or 8 years older...how good were they at 21?
 


seagulls4ever

Well-known member
Oct 2, 2003
4,338
Lennon is far better than Walcott. He actually knows how to take the ball past players, and can deliver a decent final ball - both of which Walcott does very rarely. Lennon has a good footballing brain as well; he knows the right areas to run into, when to play a simple ball, when to make a run, etc. People talk about Walcott's pace, but that's literally all he has. Even then, Lennon is actually faster with the ball than Walcott is, because Walcott doesn't have any sort of clue what to do when he has it. There's zero creative or footballing ability inside him. Is Lennon actually that much slower off the ball than Walcott anyway?

Cole, Wright-Phillips and Ashley Young are better than Walcott, too.
 


The Modfather

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Dec 13, 2009
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Ibiza to the Norfolk Broads
This. Joe Cole was brilliant when he came on and set up one of the own goals with a cross which was very difficult to defend.

My midfield for the first game would be

Cole - LW
Lampard - CM
Barry/Milner - CM
Wright-Phillips - RM

That midfield with Gerrard playing just behind Rooney would be Quala. If needed Cole and Gerrard could swap as Cole can do a job as the attacking midfielder.

Agreed.

This should be the starting line up for the midfield/frontline.
 








Gerbil

Nsc's most loved
Jul 6, 2003
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Stalking Hayley
This. Joe Cole was brilliant when he came on and set up one of the own goals with a cross which was very difficult to defend.

My midfield for the first game would be

Cole - LW
Lampard - CM
Barry/Milner - CM
Wright-Phillips - RM

That midfield with Gerrard playing just behind Rooney would be Quala. If needed Cole and Gerrard could swap as Cole can do a job as the attacking midfielder.


I agree with Cole, would much rather have him than Walcott or Lennon, who are simpily not up to it. But i'm not too keen on SWP. I would probally put Gerrard at RM and have Rooney and Crouch up top
 




The Wizard

Well-known member
Jul 2, 2009
18,402
SWP is WANK. Lennon/Walcott/Cole/Johnson are all better players. Lennon is the best player out of all those though.
 




Springal

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Feb 12, 2005
25,337
GOSBTS
SWP is usually pretty good for England. Walcott runs into dead ends and doesn't really have an end product, Lennon is OK but gets found out too easily. Joe Cole however, has always looked decent for England I think, but his lack of club games goes against him
 




The Hon Sec

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Feb 23, 2009
421
Deep up County
Walcott may have had more than one opposition player around him at times but on the occasions when he received the ball with only his full back in front of him he still didnt take him on. If he doesnt know when to attack the space behind the defence with his pace then his place in the side is open to question. Rooney seems to get very frustrated by him and Lennon is the more positive player.
 


arfer guinness

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Feb 15, 2007
351
Theo has the advantage over Lennon because of playing against the best in the world ie. in the Champions League. On current form not a lot between them, but on potential to win a match, Lennon should get a cushion to sit on because those benches can be hard.
 


Aug 31, 2009
1,880
Brighton
surprised no-one has mentioned an important fact

with the arrival of wunderkids like ronaldo (brazil) and messi and rooney, people forget that some players become good, then great, at a slower pace.

he is still the youngest player in the squad!

wait till he is 23-27 before you start calling him shit! i expect you won't have cause anymore, there is a good chance you'll be looking at a f***ing storming player

as for the question of now... Lennon has looked lively as f*** and mature. i'd agree with the consensus of walcott as a very potent sub. at the moment he can still be somewhat contained by the best defenders for the most of a match. hit them with his raw pace on 65 minutes.
 








beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,509
Check out this footage below.....can this really be the same player?

yes. which just goes to show if you are going to take Walcott it should be as a striker and play him in the Owen mode. but with the focus around Rooney i dont think this is going to happen.
 


Ninja Elephant

Doctor Elephant
Feb 16, 2009
18,855
Theo Walcott is wasted on the wing, he's not a good enough crosser of a ball to make that position work for him. And when Wenger realised this about Henry, he played up front and he became the best striker in the world, at the time. He needs to play Theo up front and stop all this winger nonsense.

As for the England wingers debate, my only reason for supporting SWP is that he scores more goals than the others. He gets into the right positions and he chips in, that is worth considering when it comes to a tournament squad. I'd rather have Lennon, don't get me wrong, but I think the only reason SWP was in 30 is because he's more likely to score you a goal than the others. Theo's hattrick in Croatia aside, he hasn't scored for England.
 






mejonaNO12 aka riskit

Well-known member
Dec 4, 2003
22,388
England
Not good enough for top flight football, wengar knows this and i reckon thats why he dont play every week for aresnal

Ummmm he does play every wee. He wasn't originally as he had a busted shoulder. His firm fir arsenal was very good the last 5 or so games.

How anyone can think swp is more of a threat is beyond me! he has lost his pace, trickery and finish which was his whole point!

If I was a left back and had Lennon running at me for 70mins, and then
had theo come on I would probably cry. He has to go. Yesterday was not his best as he wasn't allowed to run at players like he would have wanted. Johnson never overlapped and he was
forced to cut in every time which makes NO winger looked good. Lennon did NOTHING yesterday and lost control of the ball far more but has got nowhere near the focus.

Theo will have a moment in the WC where we are thankful Capello
took him, probably a Liverpool moment where we have to break out of attack against tired legs.
 


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