ministers today launched a £12 million scheme to combat the spread of right-wing extr

[coventrygull]

Because its a fallacy?

Of course it is mate

Islam 4 UK Home page

 

[Husty]

This'll be a good thread

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Didn't realise this was a binfest

its only a binfest for the groovy gang.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

I thought Das Reich lived in Lewes?

the obsession continues

 

[Driver 8]

certainly not a fallacy if you live anywhere north of Sussex.

I do. I live in north Wales and work in Liverpool.

 

[aberllefenni]

Mr C Gull. i HAVE OFTEN wanted to know a bit more about the third poistion, any good and sensible links for a digestable bit of gen.

Ahh the ITP, weird bunch, think green nazis and you wont be too far wide of the mark.

 

[coventrygull]

Ahh the ITP, weird bunch, think green nazis and you wont be too far wide of the mark.

The ITP no longer exist. Nor do the ENM or NRF. Sometimes I think they were organisations ahead of their time

 

[El Presidente]

the obsession continues

Out of interest DR, when you were standing as a candidate for the Seagulls Party in the local elections, did you tell voters that you were a supporter of the BNP and were in favour of repatriation?

Because if so they might have said that they thought the Albion should repatriate out of Falmer?

 

[Driver 8]

Of course it is mate

Islam 4 UK Home page

That link doesn't work for me. If its the usual Moslem chavs like in Luton then I do not consider them any more of threat than any other "disillusioned" youth in our country. Lets get things into perspective, is it any different from the perceived threat to "the system" from anarchist punks/skinheads in the 80s? In the end they will grow up.

 

[coventrygull]

That link doesn't work for me. If its the usual Moslem chavs like in Luton then I do not consider them any more of threat than any other "disillusioned" youth in our country. Lets get things into perspective, is it any different from the perceived threat to "the system" from anarchist punks/skinheads in the 80s? In the end they will grow up.

No its not the usual chavs from Luton. Its quite an interesting site. When did punks or skinheads plant bombs on tube trains?

 

[coventrygull]

Progressive British Muslims - concern over Islam4UK grows

A bit more info. The link was working earlier.

 

[Driver 8]

"More needs to be done to provide a platform for representatives of the majority of British Muslims presenting their arguments against these minority extremis groups.”

Is that the point you were making Mr Coventry? In which case I agree that perhaps that would be an equally good use of the £12m but the extremists should be prevented from influencing both sides of the argument.

 

[coventrygull]

"More needs to be done to provide a platform for representatives of the majority of British Muslims presenting their arguments against these minority extremis groups.”

Is that the point you were making Mr Coventry? In which case I agree that perhaps that would be an equally good use of the £12m but the extremists should be prevented from influencing both sides of the argument.

One could argue that the BNP is the moderate voice of British Nationalism. Some on the far right have suggested that they are a state safety valve.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

I wonder how they would tackle left wing extremism?

Buy a heap of soap and shampoo and shoot alot of university lecturers?

 

[clapham_gull]

I doubt his life has been affected or yours,and you know it, you both live in sussex, perhaps you should ask some of the white working classes who have lived all their lives in places like tooting, tower hamlets or northern mill towns, im quite sure you wouldnt get the nice,cosy response backing up your "enlightened" point of view.

That may lead people to form a misrepresentation of Tooting as it goes. Can't really comment on Tower Hamlets, it's not somewhere I've visited too often.

Balham over the last ten years has over taken Clapham in terms of trendy bars and young middle class professionals and the house prices have shot through the roof. I havent really been down there for a few years, but have visited a few times recently and was astounded how much it had changed.

It's much nicer than where I live. Clapham High Street is horrible, reminds me of cheap Spanish tourist resort (and resembles one at weekends), Balham's High Street is much better and much more useful.

You know somethings up when you see a Waitrose. You are looking at between £350,000 to £400,000 for a single floor two bedroom flat in Balham. If there is space out the back for few pots and a table and chairs you'll be lucky.

My point ? Tooting is just a walk down the road and far from being some sort of downbeat "immigrant ghetto" is also an increasingly expensive and nice place to live. Walk round some of the roads down there and you'd think you were in Surrey. I'd imagine it will "suffer" from the white flight from Balham and Clapham in the next few years.

Anyway, some of these white working classes you know would have done well to have stuck in Tooting. A white immigrant from Liverpool I work with bought a house there for £80,000 about 15 years ago.

It's worth 4 times that now.

 

[User removed 4]

That may lead people to form a misrepresentation of Tooting as it goes. My point ? Tooting is just a walk down the road and far from being some sort of downbeat "immigrant ghetto" is also an increasingly expensive and nice place to live. Walk round some of the roads down there and you'd think you were in Surrey. I'd imagine it will "suffer" from the white flight from Balham and Clapham in the next few years.

Anyway, some of these white working classes you know would have done well to have stuck in Tooting. A white immigrant from Liverpool I work with bought a house there for £80,000 about 15 years ago.

It's worth 4 times that now.

Agreed, tooting isnt tower hamlets , but tooting now is a lot different to the tooting i was born and grew up in, walk from tooting bec down to to tooting broadway and you will be hard pressed to find a non asian shop, you may take great delight in proving me wrong in some way but i think the pie and mash shop in selkirk road is the only white shop that has survived, you make the point that some of the white working classes would have done well to have stuck in tooting ?, what about the white working classes that have no f***ing choice ? not everyone can afford to buy a property and are stuck there , increasingly in a minority amongst either asians or people like you who consider themselves qualified to tell them how lucky they are to live in tooting because you walked down some of the streets and imagined you could be in surrey, well walk down upper tooting road and you could quite feasibly imagine you were in islamabad, i defy you to produce ANY white working class person from tooting who doesnt despair at what it has become.

 

[The Spanish]

I disagree, its unrealistic to expect someone born and bred in pakistan who moves here to support england at cricket, BUT THEIR KIDS SHOULD ! trouble is they dont, and we all know it.

thats about the size of it. I lived in Denmark and Cov if you had run a union jack up your flagpole (EVERYONE flys the national flag or pennant unless they are in an apartment block or something) you would have had the whole neighbourhood round. They take it very seriously.

That said, I would never support their national team just because I lived there, I even went to support NI in Odense once just to annoy some of my pals. but then I had no intention of staying. I did cheer them on as long as they werent playing England, its just manners and if your friends are doing it and are bang into the game why f***ing not. They would never accept me or anyone else as really Danish anyway, they think we are definately second rate compared to them. They have not been sold 'multiculturalism' in the insane delusional way we have. It just won't wash there.

 

[The Spanish]

There was an article on the news this week about BNP infiltrating a huge WHITE working class council housing estate somewhere in the north west where they revealed the average reading age amongst the adults was 7.

Perhaps these are the people draining the benefits system that we should be deporting?

no they are the people we should be HELPING.

Unreal post.

 

[User removed 4]

no they are the people we should be HELPING.

Unreal post.

exactly mate, as you've said before , a lot of this "enlightened liberalism" is a cover for class snobbery.

 

[Bevendean Hillbilly]

Out of interest DR, when you were standing as a candidate for the Seagulls Party in the local elections, did you tell voters that you were a supporter of the BNP and were in favour of repatriation?

Because if so they might have said that they thought the Albion should repatriate out of Falmer?

I have his blurb somewhere...doe'st say anything about ethnics or football hooliganism at all.

Odd that.

He even looks like a kindly uncle.